I'll never understand the woodgate appointment

[Paulh10]

And to appoint an inexperienced team to work alongside him. The current team is full of experience and its so telling.

 

[Jedi boro]

The original plan seems to have been getting Steve round to support him but I think we overestimated the offer.

Bringing Keane in was just madness though.

 

[uberweiss]

Its called being tight as @rseholes

 

[festa5]

There's a finance element obviously. But bottom line is it comes down to Gibson's appalling lack of judgement when it comes to football matters.

See also: the pedestal he puts con man Pulis on.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

If we had appointed Warnock after Pulis the board would be full of fans complaining that the football is too boring. Woodgate gives us at least until January.

 

[BoroFur]

If we had appointed Warnock after Pulis the board would be full of fans complaining that the football is too boring. Woodgate gives us at least until January.

You make it sound like Gibson had a plan. He didn't.

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

He did. It was to play attacking football. Just like when he appointed monk. There's no coincidence we flip flop between styles. I'm betting we hear the phrase taking the shackles off before Christmas.

 

[Jedi boro]

But We didn’t play attacking football though as we just lost Week in week out we played naive defeatist amateurish football.

 

[Colgates_shaving_foam]

We never have a succession plan, we throw the baby out with the bath water and start from scratch. Only an arch pragmatist like Warnock could have fixed that mess so quickly. We better be planning now and not just pick a manger depending on how the wind is blowing.

 

[Rofesleg]

I don't think there are any shackles on to take off tbh.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Weren’t we 2nd in the league when we sacked Southgate due to the fans thinking the football wasn’t “exciting” enough

 

[Frozen Horse]

I think the plan was, as with Mogga, to put someone who the fans would give time during a period of belt-tightening.

Problems were:
Mogga was a pretty good manager
Many fans actually wanted Mogga; although JW was a Boro lad and player, I can't recall any fan on here actually wanting him as first choice.

 

[Alzi]

The fact Woody was known as “village” at Spurs (in a football dressing room, hardly a Mensa meeting) tells you all you need to know about his credentials.

 

[starplayer]

Woody was his own worst enemy. He tried to play expansive football with pragmatic footballers.
At least we still have the recruitment team intact to unearth more gems, such as Bola and Dijksteel

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Woody was his own worst enemy. He tried to play expansive football with pragmatic footballers.
At least we still have the recruitment team intact to unearth more gems, such as Bola and Dijksteel

they were both Woodgate signings

 

[Lottowyn]

We were actually 4th in the league although only 1 point off the top after that Derby game when Gareth was sacked although Steve Gibson apparently admitted that the decision to relieve GS of his job had been taken weeks before the event.

As I remember it, weren't Boro winning away and not being too successful at home up to his dismissal?

It's just one of those decisions that can happen to any club which we cannot look back on with pride. Such actions as recently disposing of Traore and Bamford, losing Graeme Souness to win all those trophies for Liverpool, and selling our best ever goal scorer to the Mackems for £40,000. The stuff of nightmares.

 

[SuperStu]

Weren’t we 2nd in the league when we sacked Southgate due to the fans thinking the football wasn’t “exciting” enough

We'd only just been hammered 5-0 at home off West Brom. Hardly an undeserved sacking.

 

[Jedi boro]

We'd only just been hammered 5-0 at home off West Brom. Hardly an undeserved sacking.

Yes and that was after a spineless relegation as well.

But Southgate is in the past.

 

[Frozen Horse]

We were actually 4th in the league although only 1 point off the top after that Derby game when Gareth was sacked although Steve Gibson apparently admitted that the decision to relieve GS of his job had been taken weeks before the event.

As I remember it, weren't Boro winning away and not being too successful at home up to his dismissal?

We took 5 points from the previous 5 matches prior to that Derby match, including 3 consecutive home defeats.

The overall position still looked ok, but it was skewed by the form when we had Tuncay and particularly Huth in the team.
2.5 points/game with them. 1.44 points/game without them.

We were falling, not flying at that point.

 

[parmoboy]

We never have a succession plan, we throw the baby out with the bath water and start from scratch. Only an arch pragmatist like Warnock could have fixed that mess so quickly. We better be planning now and not just pick a manger depending on how the wind is blowing.

I think we did have a succession plan this time around. I bought into the idea of the club creating an identity, a playing style which would be adopted from the juniors, right the way up to the seniors. The issue was that Woodgate was never going to be the right person to oversee this.