I will never show a vaccine pass to go in pub , football stadium or any other business that asks for one

How do you know?? Once we have got to a level of what is deemed an acceptable infection rate, like the flu, then there wouldn’t be a need for the COVID passport, it is only a means to an end, to ensure the infection rate continues to fall.
You're right it's a means to an end, you and I just don't agree on the end Holgate.
 
How do you know?? Once we have got to a level of what is deemed an acceptable infection rate, like the flu, then there wouldn’t be a need for the COVID passport, it is only a means to an end, to ensure the infection rate continues to fall.
😁 ok if you want to believe a government that only a few weeks ago insisted there would categorically be no vaccine passport then it’s your funeral



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I don’t think you want convincing though do you? My employer told me the proposals but naturally they can change.

Do you think the vaccine passports will end up being some sort of identity card and we will end up a controlled state such as China?
 
But what benefit would it be for them to have a permanent COVID passport, once the infections have reached a permanently acceptable level, how would they justify it??
I thought I’d already explained that - they’re nothing to do with Covid. This is just another way of bringing in a social credit system similar to the one in China. I realise not everyone is aware of it or even heard of it before but that is the aim of these. Google China social credit system to see what’s coming - it’s not pleasant i can assure you




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Sir I'm 76 I am no threat to anyone that should be obvious even to the average copper

Stoke do it to their home fans but I was accepted on offering to turn out pockets and bag
Doesn’t matter how old you are if you have a weapon.

Not that it matters anyway, it’s up to you if you’re not willing to be patted down and are willing to miss the match etc.

Just seems a funny thing to take a stand against I suppose.
 
I don’t think you want convincing though do you? My employer told me the proposals but naturally they can change.

Do you think the vaccine passports will end up being some sort of identity card and we will end up a controlled state such as China?
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But what benefit would it be for them to have a permanent COVID passport, once the infections have reached a permanently acceptable level, how would they justify it??
The single biggest benefit of keeping everyone afraid of covid is the ability to extend the covid bill another 6 months to continue stealing from us.
 
I thought I’d already explained that - they’re nothing to do with Covid. This is just another way of bringing in a social credit system similar to the one in China. I realise not everyone is aware of it or even heard of it before but that is the aim of these. Google China social credit system to see what’s coming - it’s not pleasant i can assure you




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This of course is in your humble opinion and surely if your worst fears were confirmed, the government wouldn’t last long and the next Labour government would likely repeal them.
 
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I naturally wouldn’t want an introduction of identity cards either. I’ve been to China a few times and the level of control is awful. That said I’m sure the government don’t need a vaccine passport to kick things off and could always adopt an identity card if they wanted to anyway.

So the pubs and restaurants can’t survive at 40% capacity and you don’t want the vaccine passport. So what is the solution? Open up and take the risk?
 
This of course is in your humble opinion and surely if your worst fears were confirmed, the government wouldn’t last long and the next Labour government would likely repeal them.
Are you kidding - why would any government give up a way of controlling people. Ain’t happening who ever is in power, and frankly i can’t really tell the Tories and Labour apart much at the moment




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I’m so glad I don’t overthink these things, I could end up in a right pickle with myself, time will tell I suspect but hopefully not as dark a scenario as painted.
 
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