I always knew trumps demise would be spectacular but wow

It is scary and it highlights how unfettered social media disinformation can harm democracy. The use of the internet has been essentially unregulated for too long and the abuse of this is a real attack on democracy.

You have foreign powers meddling in other countries politics in a way and influence that is unprecedented and you have “insider” factions spreading lies that repeated become fact.

I think it is time for massively increased censorship. If a profile is set up essentially to spout political dogma it should have to be registered and sign up to a fair use policy, breaches of that policy would lead to removal of the profile. Any political profile set up should need to be registered to at least one individual or recognised organisation with a proof of identity such as a payment authorisation being necessary. Preaching of hate can then quickly be prosecuted.

As it stands the internet experiment is failing society and it is too easily exploited by those with more sinister agendas.

Any accredited political profile or organisation for example an MP or prospective MP, party or branch of a party needs to understand that they cannot spread disinformation or spread malicious propaganda that does not conform agreed standards.

I am referring to the last election process in this country where the winning party approached the campaign with baseless attacks on the opposition and a level of deceit that was extraordinary when fact checked.

Make no mistake, unless the whole social media and internet approach to political debate is cleaned up we will lose democracy as it currently stands.

The internet should have led to increased political expression and debate but when you look at mankind’s ability to debase it’s hardly a shock that it has been highjacked and led down the current path.

Power, money, influence corrupts, it is a cancer. Allowing individuals the influence and power they currently are able to hoard is not good for society. Drastic curbs now need to be considered.
 
It’s a slow relentless poisoning of minds - young and old coupled with an inability to assimilate what is fact and what is fiction. Propaganda was the term in WW2.

Despite a woman called Ashli Babbitt who was shot dead in the Capitol Building and whose social media posts were filled with pro Trump comments and posting Qanon slogans , there are thousand tweeting and Facebook posting the lies that Antifa were the people breaking into the Capitol.

Amongst those captured on camera posting selfies in the Capitol Building was a man wearing a “Camp Auschwitz” Tee Shirt. I don’t know about you but that concerns me greatly. Despite Israel supporting Trump there is a sinister Nazi element within the extreme right wing. It is a conflict of thought I just can’t get my head around.
 
It’s a slow relentless poisoning of minds - young and old coupled with an inability to assimilate what is fact and what is fiction. Propaganda was the term in WW2.

Despite a woman called Ashli Babbitt who was shot dead in the Capitol Building and whose social media posts were filled with pro Trump comments and posting Qanon slogans , there are thousand tweeting and Facebook posting the lies that Antifa were the people breaking into the Capitol.

Amongst those captured on camera posting selfies in the Capitol Building was a man wearing a “Camp Auschwitz” Tee Shirt. I don’t know about you but that concerns me greatly. Despite Israel supporting Trump there is a sinister Nazi element within the extreme right wing. It is a conflict of thought I just can’t get my head around.
I guess because Trump uses vague definitions to rally all kinds of disenfranchised people into his cult. He rarely gives absolutes about who is to blame and what is to blame, he always talks about them, fake 'media' en masse, he might use NYT or CNN to start the conversation, but then his 'fake media' allows all media outlets to be associated with the same 'crime' that he claims CNN have done. This allows all conspiracy theories, all allegations, all right wing agitator 'scoops' to be bucketed together. Therefore his cult can include lots of what should be mutually exclusive groups. So you can get a middle class Jewish guy on the same side as a holocaust denier. You can get Pro-life uber catholic person from the sticks, with a middle class soft catholic from the city. They all have a grievance, and want to blame someone, someone left of them, because their grievance must come from someone that is giving away what they don't have to people that are not them.
 
Sounds like Biden is gunning for Trump.
Hope so, Trump won't allow himself to be silenced and will continue to claim he was cheated. The rational side of the nation has to see him and his whole cabal in prison so they have their voice removed. If you can get him on trial, in front of republican judges, and he goes to prison and he also gets done for some of the outstanding stuff, sexual assault, corruption, tax fraud etc. it will give some of his cult a route out from it. It could take 10 years to destroy this cult, but it starts with punishing and humiliating him, and pushing his support to the fringes. If we get him in prison for his behaviour in office, then we might see a Jimmy Saville situation where more of the sexual assault cases are actually prosecuted and for some of these cultists sex crimes will be too far.
 
The sad reality is that there is no credible news source in the USA for many Americans who have decided to live in an endless echo chamber of hate and lies.

there really isn’t a comparison that we in the uk can relate to.
 
Similar could easily have happened here “I will be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines.” (if Brexit is not delivered.)

Nigel Farage, May 2017
 
According to the NY Times, they’ve at least two sources who claim the orange one is looking into granting himself a pardon.
 
Nancy Pelosi has called for the 25th otherwise she'll move to impeach.
You may ask why impeach when he only has 15 days left or why impeach when it won't be able to be completed in time? Well, and I'm loathe to say it, but Matt Gaetz actually suggested impeaching a non-sitting president (Obama) during the Trump impeachment and it would appear that there is grounds for doing it just to ensure that the person being impeached can't hold any future office. Given what Trump has done then I'd say it is essential that he can't get near any position of office ever again. Call it insurance if he can't be locked away for the rest of his bile filled existence.
 
It’s a slow relentless poisoning of minds - young and old coupled with an inability to assimilate what is fact and what is fiction. Propaganda was the term in WW2.

Despite a woman called Ashli Babbitt who was shot dead in the Capitol Building and whose social media posts were filled with pro Trump comments and posting Qanon slogans , there are thousand tweeting and Facebook posting the lies that Antifa were the people breaking into the Capitol.

Amongst those captured on camera posting selfies in the Capitol Building was a man wearing a “Camp Auschwitz” Tee Shirt. I don’t know about you but that concerns me greatly. Despite Israel supporting Trump there is a sinister Nazi element within the extreme right wing. It is a conflict of thought I just can’t get my head around.
Also someone wearing a “6MWE” t shirt.

6 Million wasn’t enough.

Truly despicable people.
 
Nancy Pelosi has called for the 25th otherwise she'll move to impeach.
You may ask why impeach when he only has 15 days left or why impeach when it won't be able to be completed in time? Well, and I'm loathe to say it, but Matt Gaetz actually suggested impeaching a non-sitting president (Obama) during the Trump impeachment and it would appear that there is grounds for doing it just to ensure that the person being impeached can't hold any future office. Given what Trump has done then I'd say it is essential that he can't get near any position of office ever again. Call it insurance if he can't be locked away for the rest of his bile filled existence.
Just lock him away, that would quieten him anyway.
 
He's looking into pardoning himself now. Possibly with increased vigour after yesterday.
 
Similar could easily have happened here “I will be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines.” (if Brexit is not delivered.)

Nigel Farage, May 2017
No doubt farage is a tw@ but he’s never won a seat in a uk domestic election. So far from being the leader of the free world he’s not even got on a parish council politically speaking. (MEP doesn’t COUNT).
 
No doubt farage is a tw@ but he’s never won a seat in a uk domestic election. So far from being the leader of the free world he’s not even got on a parish council politically speaking. (MEP doesn’t COUNT).
I always found it incredibly sad how few people bothered voting in European elections, particularly given how vocal people are about it being undemocratic.
 
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
 
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