Houses on a cliff edge…

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xxlshirts_fit_all

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These ‘houses’ in Norfolk on the coast are falling into the sea…

It’s not a sudden shock as it’s a creeping line, so why aren’t they demolished before they cover the edge leaving debris all up the cliff and onto the beach and in the sea..

Some of them even have garden furniture on patios….

I get it’s distressing to the owners but surely there’s some responsibility from them and councils not to just let them litter the coast line..
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
These ‘houses’ in Norfolk on the coast are falling into the sea…

It’s not a sudden shock as it’s a creeping line, so why aren’t they demolished before they cover the edge leaving debris all up the cliff and onto the beach and in the sea..

Some of them even have garden furniture on patios….

I get it’s distressing to the owners but surely there’s some responsibility from them and councils not to just let them litter the coast line..
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It sounds like you haven't been following this story or you would understand and empathise more with the plight of the residents on why they haven't just up sticks and left.
 
The coast doesn't erode in nice easily predicted increments. It might "average" 2 inches per year (5cm kids) but that could be years of nothing/very little then three feet go in one storm.
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
These ‘houses’ in Norfolk on the coast are falling into the sea…

It’s not a sudden shock as it’s a creeping line, so why aren’t they demolished before they cover the edge leaving debris all up the cliff and onto the beach and in the sea..

Some of them even have garden furniture on patios….

I get it’s distressing to the owners but surely there’s some responsibility from them and councils not to just let them litter the coast line..
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I saw a bit about this on the news this morning. One of the residents was saying that it had been eroding by around a foot per year but recently there was an event which had caused the dunes to be washed away incredibly rapidly which is why they were caught out.
 
Colgates_shaving_foam said:
I saw a bit about this on the news this morning. One of the residents was saying that it had been eroding by around a foot per year but recently there was an event which had caused the dunes to be washed away incredibly rapidly which is why they were caught out.
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One woman lost 20 ft from her garden in a week.
 
It must be a real headache as you would fall into a weird state of waiting for the inevitable.

Nobody will buy your house for obvious reasons and the insurance has nothing to pay out for until the house has actually began the subsidence.
 
I listened to a poor chap saying he bought it on the premise it had 30 -40 years before it had to be demolished with erosion at that time. Over the last 3 years he reckoned that had been sped up by 30 years.

Awful situation and crazy just how rapid nature can take back/ impact.
 
The world is falling off a cliff edge - because of our criminal failure to do anything to reduce and prevent further, the impacts of our own behaviours on climate change.
 
r00fie1 said:
The world is falling off a cliff edge - because of our criminal failure to do anything to reduce and prevent further, the impacts of our own behaviours on climate change.
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Yep, and to all those racists out there terrified of brown people travelling here on small boats.

You ain't seen nothing yet.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
It sounds like you haven't been following this story or you would understand and empathise more with the plight of the residents on why they haven't just up sticks and left.
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I think you have got me wrong, I’m not suggesting just giving up on anyone that Iives with 2000 meters of the cliff edge…

I think a hell of a lot more needed to be done to save these properties or support those that have lost everything…

I’m talking about in the days immediately before they eventually go over, when it’s inevitable that it would happen on the next big storm to avoid all the litter they’re causing..

I’m not one of those people saying ‘well it’s obvious it’s gonna happen so tough…!!’ I’m saying it’s obvious it’s going to happen so more should be done..
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
I think you have got me wrong, I’m not suggesting just giving up on anyone that Iives with 2000 meters of the cliff edge…

I think a hell of a lot more needed to be done to save these properties or support those that have lost everything…

I’m talking about in the days immediately before they eventually go over, when it’s inevitable that it would happen on the next big storm to avoid all the litter they’re causing..

I’m not one of those people saying ‘well it’s obvious it’s gonna happen so tough…!!’ I’m saying it’s obvious it’s going to happen so more should be done..
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I think it is being done now, they said something about 1900, 19000? Tonnes of rocks being brought up in next couple of days to build a defence. I think the speed of this erosion just completely caught them out.
 
In general it has accelerated over the last couple of years, one guys liked his house back so far and is having to do it again…

But they’ve been taking about this erosion for years. I think in general it’s been decided to let nature take its course to some point and they’ve kicked the can down the road…

They were taking to one lady the other day and she mentioned how people had helped her empty her house but I’m sure I’d have not waited until the kitchen was just hanging there… they needed support before that point…
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
I think you have got me wrong, I’m not suggesting just giving up on anyone that Iives with 2000 meters of the cliff edge…

I think a hell of a lot more needed to be done to save these properties or support those that have lost everything…

I’m talking about in the days immediately before they eventually go over, when it’s inevitable that it would happen on the next big storm to avoid all the litter they’re causing..

I’m not one of those people saying ‘well it’s obvious it’s gonna happen so tough…!!’ I’m saying it’s obvious it’s going to happen so more should be done..
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I think you are missing what is happening. They have lost over 6m in the last few weeks making it dangerous to move heavy machinery near the edge. One guy was hoping to lift his cabin, drop it on telegraph poles and pull it closer to safety, not sure if he's managed to do that.

The local authority and government could have done more to save this community but choked at the cost of sea defenses compared to what was at stake.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
I think you are missing what is happening. They have lost over 6m in the last few weeks making it dangerous to move heavy machinery near the edge. One guy was hoping to lift his cabin, drop it on telegraph poles and pull it closer to safety, not sure if he's managed to do that.

The local authority and government could have done more to save this community but choked at the cost of sea defenses compared to what was at stake.
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No, I’m not missing that at all…

It’s been a rapid turn of events, but watching the news they’re sometimes stood just watching houses fall over that could have been demolished a few days or weeks before..

It’s heartbreaking for the owner, I get that but there is some responsibility to act before the hose falls to prevent more debris than is needed..

There have been a few that have been demolished by heavy plant and I get that it may be not all could be..

I’m not trying to be insensitive or argumentative, I’ve been following the story the past week and often see these stories come up and show interest in them..

I guess we’ll just have to disagree, after all, I’m no expert, just making an observation and I’m still full of empathy for them 🙂
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
No, I’m not missing that at all…

It’s been a rapid turn of events, but watching the news they’re sometimes stood just watching houses fall over that could have been demolished a few days or weeks before..

It’s heartbreaking for the owner, I get that but there is some responsibility to act before the hose falls to prevent more debris than is needed..

There have been a few that have been demolished by heavy plant and I get that it may be not all could be..

I’m not trying to be insensitive or argumentative, I’ve been following the story the past week and often see these stories come up and show interest in them..

I guess we’ll just have to disagree, after all, I’m no expert, just making an observation and I’m still full of empathy for them 🙂
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I'm not disagreeing with you and it sounds like we are both saying similar things, with the only difference being around demolition. As I mentioned above, this is limited due to the ground being unstable and I also guess owners and the authorities will question who is picking up the bill. Either way, it will need cleaning up one way or the other.
 
A good question- who pays to knock them down? Or relocate them?

It seems sensible but if nobody will pick up the tab then these things often get neglected.
 
xxlshirts_fit_all said:
These ‘houses’ in Norfolk on the coast are falling into the sea…

It’s not a sudden shock as it’s a creeping line, so why aren’t they demolished before they cover the edge leaving debris all up the cliff and onto the beach and in the sea..

Some of them even have garden furniture on patios….

I get it’s distressing to the owners but surely there’s some responsibility from them and councils not to just let them litter the coast line..
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Do they clear the site after the house is demolished? If not, why not just let it fall into the sea? At least the owner might be able to sell the footage of his home falling spectacularly off the cliff.

I'm sure I recall seeing houses falling off cliffs near Scarborough, they hadn't been flattened.
 
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