Hats off to the Spa Hotel Saltburn!

Could everyone spread the word about warm spaces being offered by MFC Foundation at the Riverside Stadium and Herlingshaw Centre.

"Each week, on a Tuesday morning at the Riverside Stadium and on Wednesday afternoon at the Herlingshaw Centre in South Bank, a room will be made available for anyone who wants to keep warm, mix with like-minded people and have access to free WiFi, coffee and soup."
 
i'm staying in a decent hotel in Cheshire
There's a nice seating area in reception frequented just about every night by several old couples with sandwiches and flasks.
Almost like refugees in their own Country
WTF have we become?
The Country is locked in reverse.
Never did I imagine this could happen here. :cry:
 
Fair play to them, it's a horrible situation this country is in right now.

It's absolutely freezing this morning, I dread to think what it's like for those without heating or on the streets.
 
Really disappointing attitude from you @newyddion.

We all know it's wrong. So does the Spa at Saltburn because they've said so.

Absolutely bizarre that people have a go at those trying to help those in dire need for support by claiming they are condoning the need for these “warm rooms”.

It’s a disgrace they are needed, as with good banks, but those helping out should not be questioned.

As usual in this country the finger of blame is pointed at the people affected rather than the people who create the problems. We see it with crime, strikes and now warm rooms!

Strange logic.
 
Bit of a chicken and egg argument there…

I don’t think either Norman or new have voted this shower in but theyve been divided by the very problem they’re both been saying is wrong…

one is highlighting the cause of the problem (tories) while the other is highlighting efforts to alleviate the problem until something can be done about those in power….

you both need to take a breath (won’t say ‘chill’ in this instance) let’s not fall divided…
 
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There should be no need for generous actions like this from the Spa, like there should be no need for charities beyond repairing church roofs, coffee mornings for the WI and bag packing for the local Scouts, our kindness allows governments to defer and remove the very worse consequences of their policies.

I'm obviously not saying we should allow people to starve or freeze to death but charity has become cosy and removes the anger we should all feel about it's need in the first place, the focus shifts onto the good people do and away from the evils that necessitate their kindness.

In a way it offers a defence for those defending the indefensible, Tory MP's will argue that because the figures showed no increase in deaths, for example, that government policy worked, it's abhorrent and disgusting but the very real political myopia we are dealing with.

Yes we should be thankful for the safety net that actions like these and others provide but we should never lose the anger or sight of the consequences that the government would allow should they not.
 
There should be no need for generous actions like this from the Spa, like there should be no need for charities beyond repairing church roofs, coffee mornings for the WI and bag packing for the local Scouts, our kindness allows governments to defer and remove the very worse consequences of their policies.

I'm obviously not saying we should allow people to starve or freeze to death but charity has become cosy and removes the anger we should all feel about it's need in the first place, the focus shifts onto the good people do and away from the evils that necessitate their kindness.

In a way it offers a defence for those defending the indefensible, Tory MP's will argue that because the figures showed no increase in deaths, for example, that government policy worked, it's abhorrent and disgusting but the very real political myopia we are dealing with.

Yes we should be thankful for the safety net that actions like these and others provide but we should never lose the anger or sight of the consequences that the government would allow should they not.
I think this was basically the argument newy was making. He wasn’t having a go at the hotel. All got a bit heated too quickly though.
 
How do people get there-does bus go close to it or will they have to walk and how do they get home afterwards? Yes correct they have to walk home in freezing cold weather making the visit to the hot Spa pointless
 
How do people get there-does bus go close to it or will they have to walk and how do they get home afterwards? Yes correct they have to walk home in freezing cold weather making the visit to the hot Spa pointless
It isn't pointless if someone in Saltburn cannot afford to put their heating on during day time. If they can they walk, drive, bus or perhaps get a lift to the Spa to share their warmth and of course company during the day time. Watching Look North last night some people are putting heating on on an evening and using community centres and warm spaces during daytime.
 
It of a chicken and egg argument there…

I don’t think either Norman or new have voted this shower in but theyve been divided by the very problem they’re both been saying is wrong…

one is highlighting the cause of the problem (tories) while the other is highlighting efforts to alleviate the problem until something can be done about those in power….

you both need to take a breath (won’t say ‘chill’ in this instance) let’s not fall divided…
I suppose what Newy was saying was right, the government knows that the good people of Britain will put their hands in their pockets to help those that can't help themselves. You only have to browse the papers to see the good deeds of others and I was taking my hat off to them.

Newy - I think we both need to make a truce on this topic, after all, we're both batting for the same team.
 
Every winter at a trigger temperature point and homeless shelters are opened.
We now reached a situation when housed people are having to leave their own homes to go somewhere else to keep warm because they cannot afford to do so in their own houses.
While we thank and support the numerous people like the Spa and others for what they do.
We can’t, under any circumstances, allow this to become the new normal.
 
I suppose what Newy was saying was right, the government knows that the good people of Britain will put their hands in their pockets to help those that can't help themselves. You only have to browse the papers to see the good deeds of others and I was taking my hat off to them.

Newy - I think we both need to make a truce on this topic, after all, we're both batting for the same team.
OK, Ban Lifted.
 
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