Hate to say it but Wilder has to go

[sparkins]

I have said this 100 times, but Wilder has to dry his tears and start actually managing the team. He has a squad of players and he is paid handsomely to get them playing together, to motivate them, to improve them and to find a style of play that fits the group he has.

He is stubbornly trying to stick to the formation that worked at Sheff Utd with players who seemingly aren't suited to it. Good managers find a way and leadership is about taking players with you, which patently isn't the case.

The business with not playing players the club spent decent amounts of money on, speaks volumes. They might not have been his first choices, but Wilder needs to look himself in the mirror and ask who is benefiting from his complete reticence to get them involved. It isn't him, it isn't the club, it isn't the players themselves and it certainly isn't the fans.

 

[Frazza65]

What about the idiots he employs front of house. Wilder, Monk, Strachan, Pulis,

…and Woodgate

 

[Randy]

Getting Wilder out won't bring in a manager who has three centre midfielders in his back pocket, who can run, or a new guy won't stop individual defensive errors from the defenders/ centre mids, a new guy can't sneak Gyokeres in.
A new manager won't help, if the club continues to buy players the managers don't want.

He tried to be more cautious today (loads on here have wanted us to concede less), and catch the opposition off guard a bit, but the latter didn't work as their 15m Striker destroyed us. This also proved the former won't work for us either, when 5 defenders a holding mid and two centre mids can't keep Coventry out, and gave away more chances in the first half than when we have played a lot more attacking.

The best form of defence for us is attack, the worst form of defence for us is defence, especially when they repeatedly make silly errors.

The only game we have is to try and score a load of goals, and push the oppo back. I knew that already, Wilder knows that too, but at least now everyone should see that.

Changing formation or style won't help us, we're playing three centre mids and still get dominated in the middle, the next manager would have to pick the same three midfielders, or pick two, and we get dominated even more.

Pick the most attacking team, get Lenihan back in (we were better when he was playing), and attack as much as we can until we can get some players in (who the manager wants). The lack of quality midfielders, and selling our best one practically wrecked this season before it even started. I thought we might be able to mitigate it, but the middle of the pitch is like one massive black hole for us.

Why won't he give any of the youngsters a go?

It's what the academy is there for is it not?

That's a management issue.

 

[BMW E34]

Thankfully i didnt get to watch it i had to go to a Funeral instead i knew what the outcome would be along with gibson sunday paper will i hope put a bit of pressure on him as we are heading down now if action isnt taken now.

 

[dooderooni]

We are like an F1 team who keeps changing their driver because they aren't getting results. At some point we all have to accept that until things change in the way the club is run then we'll have to rely on a lot of lucky breaks happening together to achieve anything.
I'm not saying we shouldn't get rid of Wilder, but I am saying we will struggle under Gibson's ownership and unless that changes then we can forget the PL for now.

 

[Pinkers]

Be serious, his system isn’t working.

0-2-8, 1-1-8, 7–3-0. If you can’t see his 5 at the back and 3 in midfield isn’t working you need to start watching another sport.

He is far too rigid.

With the players at the club? 4-1-3-2 couldn’t give a **** it isn’t trendy. We need to be solid at the back, tenacious in midfield and attacking up front

Roberts

Dijksteel
Fry
Lenihan
Bola

Howson

Jones
McNair
Giles

Muniz
Akpom/Forss

This ^

I don't buy for a minute that we can't switch to a two in midfield, it's all about what is asked of the midfielders. Wilder's system demands box to box dynamism and our midfield can't do that. 4-2-3-1 asks them to sit in front of the midfield and patrol with one pushing up a bit some of the time. That's what we can reasonably expect of Howson/Mowatt and Luongo. It would also free Crooks up as a shadow striker option where he can score goals. Do it already.

 

[the_holgate_roof]

He clearly lost the dressing room quite some time ago, the situation is untenable, it is up to the boss now, to make the right decision for the club, but I think things run much deeper than Wilder, what a mess!!

 

[Red_tiff]

Yep on you go Mr Wilder and your self well rated team. Results speak and it’s clear attitudes speak volumes. Get yourself to whoever wants you, right not you can’t help us

 

[Glover_elbow]

The last few games have been poor, but we've still not been battered, we've not even lost by more than a goal yet, which is odd, for our position.

We deserved another 5 points or so from the earlier games, so at least then we were playing like a better side.

No signs of improvement in fact we are getting worse week by week. Things have to be wrong behind the scenes and I can't see anyway out for wilder. I wouldn't be surprised if he's fallen out with everyone at the club. If we stick with him we are likely to get relegated

 

[Funky_Chicken]

To me it looks like the team are what i would term as “playing him out” or not giving their all for him. Maybe they just don’t like him, maybe he’s rubbed a few up the wrong way - he certainly doesn’t mind slagging them off individually publicly. I’d be amazed if he finishes the season here, in fact i very much doubt he’ll see the month out the way it’s going

 

[Ian Bairds Ears]

It's never been your fault Mr wilder....its the players fault....but you pick the team and your public criticism of them after matches was my emperors new clothes moment....

Public floggings are just designed to protect your image and very very damaging ..deliberately so
Gibbo...its expensive....but he has to get his way...sack him....save the season....
The bigger picture here is that he regtrttably hasnt worked out...goodbye chrissssssssy.....
Ps I was soooooo excited at your appointment I'm shocked that I'm typing this in such a short time...

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

To me it looks like the team are what i would term as “playing him out” or not giving their all for him. Maybe they just don’t like him, maybe he’s rubbed a few up the wrong way - he certainly doesn’t mind slagging them off individually publicly. I’d be amazed if he finishes the season here, in fact i very much doubt he’ll see the month out the way it’s going

I don't see a team lacking in effort. I see a team lacking in confidence.

 

[the_holgate_roof]

I don't see a team lacking in effort. I see a team lacking in confidence.

I see the opposite to you then….I think I see a team who want regime change.

 

[Simply red]

I don't see a team lacking in effort. I see a team lacking in confidence.

I just don't see a TEAM .
From the manager to the players, they are not working as a unit .

 

[Jonny Ingbar]

Based on what though? We’ve had flashes this season but it’s nowhere near enough and the results have been terrible. I’m not sure on what grounds he deserves to get more time?

Its pointless appointing any manager unless you're prepared to give them some time and the measure of progress needs to be about more than the results.

Of course a run of poor form will see every manager lose his job, but there's lots of indicators that inform that decision.

I'd point to Potter at Brighton, or Arteta at Arsenal as managers who looked destined to be sacked, but their respective clubs recognised indicators that persuaded them to be given more time.

Wilder is really up against it, but I still think he'll be backed for a while longer yet.

 

[the_holgate_roof]

I have no doubt he will be given more time, as a manager this has got to be considered the best management job going in respect of being backed, always has been…

 

[BoroPhil]

I don't see a team lacking in effort. I see a team lacking in confidence.

100% this.
First half, they looked scared to try anything.
Ultimately that is Wilder's job to sort that out.

 

[Steve Bee]

This can’t continue

He's f in rubbish

 

[Steve Bee]

Getting Wilder out won't bring in a manager who has three centre midfielders in his back pocket, who can run, or a new guy won't stop individual defensive errors from the defenders/ centre mids, a new guy can't sneak Gyokeres in.
A new manager won't help, if the club continues to buy players the managers don't want.

He tried to be more cautious today (loads on here have wanted us to concede less), and catch the opposition off guard a bit, but the latter didn't work as their 15m Striker destroyed us. This also proved the former won't work for us either, when 5 defenders a holding mid and two centre mids can't keep Coventry out, and gave away more chances in the first half than when we have played a lot more attacking.

The best form of defence for us is attack, the worst form of defence for us is defence, especially when they repeatedly make silly errors.

The only game we have is to try and score a load of goals, and push the oppo back. I knew that already, Wilder knows that too, but at least now everyone should see that.

Changing formation or style won't help us, we're playing three centre mids and still get dominated in the middle, the next manager would have to pick the same three midfielders, or pick two, and we get dominated even more.

Pick the most attacking team, get Lenihan back in (we were better when he was playing), and attack as much as we can until we can get some players in (who the manager wants). The lack of quality midfielders, and selling our best one practically wrecked this season before it even started. I thought we might be able to mitigate it, but the middle of the pitch is like one massive black hole for us.

There's an obvious 442. Diksteel, Bola, Fry and the spud fron Brighton, til the spud from Blackburn is fit. The spud from Sunderland is finished and Fry is soft. Giles and Jones left and right midfield, crooks and the ausssi, forwards are the guy who runs about for 60 mins but can't hit a barn door and Muniz.

 

[JM14]

I struggle to understand the form, at times we have played the best football we have seen in years especially with the cup run and it really looked like we could challenge. Clearly huge underlying issues that sacking another manager won’t fix, yes we might have a brief new manager bounce but we will be back in the same position in a years time because the recruitment will still be wrong
I don’t see a better manager we could get that wilder. Doubt they will be queuing up to work under Gibson with his current record