Greenwood

It is bizarre isn’t it.
The police do not have enough evidence to prosecute him

They don’t have enough evidence to prosecute me, you or anyone else on this thread.

Yet, according to many on here, Greenwood is a rapist, belongs behind bars, is a dreadful human being et al.
I mean, he MIGHT be, but he might not be.

Would you let him date your daughter is the real question? I suppose it comes down to a balance of risk. Which is not what the courts have to balance.
 
Why would she want to go back to him if he is guilty ?
Why would he be back with her if he is innocent?
I'm confused
Should she not be charged with wasting police time and false allegations if she is claiming there was no attack?.

Er, you do realise that tens of thousands of partners go back to abusive partners every day of the year.
Part of abusive and coercive behaviour is to leave a victim isolated and vulnerable, so they feel dependent on the abusive partner
 
It is bizarre isn’t it.
The police do not have enough evidence to prosecute him

They don’t have enough evidence to prosecute me, you or anyone else on this thread.

Yet, according to many on here, Greenwood is a rapist, belongs behind bars, is a dreadful human being et al.
And, all the assumptions trotted out about why charges are dropped are just daft guesses.
I think the issue is whether you measure 'wrongdoing' purely as a consequence of the criminal justice system, or whether you measure it by a wider, ethical of moral standard.

People's own moral compass will determine how they see issues such as this?
 
100% is. There isn't any evidence that he did it otherwise he'd be going to trial.

While I'd agree with the sentiments I don't agree that this is 100% correct. At the end of the day the police have to present their case to the CPS. If they feel there is a low chance of a conviction then the case won't continue.
I do agree that this is horrible for those falsely accused and also for those with genuine complaints who get no justice.
 
I’m pretty much a person who believes that if there is no evidence , the slate ought to be wiped clean and it shouldn’t be used against him . For example , I support ched evans . I also support women being sent to jail if they are found to be lying if rape

But that F***ing video is evident he is a rapist . He is scum , and he ought to be reminded he is a rapist at stadiums when he plays . No bribing of the victims is going to change that greenwood
 
Money talks . Having a good lawyer and in a position to pay people of as Prince Andrew did.But don't know the ins and Outs so all speculation.
 

Here is the video. Just a warning, it’s grim.
It is grim and it does sound very damning.

But all it takes is for him to say “oh I was only messing about for the audio, I didn’t mean it” and her to drop the charges and that’s that.

Video footage may have led to a different outcome I guess? Anyway, awful episode. Can’t imagine he’s going to be welcomed back into the English game with open arms.
 
It is bizarre isn’t it.
The police do not have enough evidence to prosecute him

They don’t have enough evidence to prosecute me, you or anyone else on this thread.

Yet, according to many on here, Greenwood is a rapist, belongs behind bars, is a dreadful human being et al.
And, all the assumptions trotted out about why charges are dropped are just daft guesses.
But do you think the recording is normal behaviour and a normal way to speak to your girlfriend!
 
Regardless of what you might think of him he was charged with "Attempted rape" which is quite different from an actual rape charge. So he's not a rapist, he's [was] an attempted rapist which I'd say is hard to prove.
 
Regardless of what you might think of him he was charged with "Attempted rape" which is quite different from an actual rape charge. So he's not a rapist, he's [was] an attempted rapist which I'd say is hard to prove.
Have you heard the recording?

Oh, it was only attempted murder.

Sound then, get your boots on son, you're in.
 
Hopefully this doesn't end badly for the previously alleged victim. It doesn't send a good message to either victims or would be abusers.
It ends badly for her and a lot of other victims. The conviction rate for rape and abuse is very low and this sends completely the wrong message. It will only stop more people coming forward.
 
He is obviously of bad character regardless if he is guilty or not .For all his tallent I would not want someone like that part of my squad.
 
Yet, according to many on here, Greenwood is a rapist, belongs behind bars, is a dreadful human being
It’s bizarre you can listen to that recording and not come to the conclusion he is a dreadful human being. Baffling.

Imagine that recording but with a family member and the man is your daughters boyfriend, sisters husband, mams partner.
 
It’s bizarre you can listen to that recording and not come to the conclusion he is a dreadful human being. Baffling.

Imagine that recording but with a family member and the man is your daughters boyfriend, sisters husband, mams partner.
And all of the images of her with bust lips and bruises.
 
And all of the images of her with bust lips and bruises.
The bust lips and bruises i took with a pinch of salt, seen/read enough fake rape stories to not buy into every photo of a bruise or black eye as harsh as that sounds but the audio is damning, he wasn't playing up for a prank or messing about he was forcing the young girl into an activity she clearly wanted no part in and for that alone, the club should sack him.

He'd get back onto payroll somewhere a but further down the pyramid and fan clubs of said club will be in uproar, then when he starts scoring goals that noise will get quieter and quieter. He'll probably do some community work, foodbank, visit kids at hospital etc and all will be forgiven as after all, he was never found guilty of anything...:rolleyes:
 
It’s not the same but I can’t help to draw parallels between this and the caroline Flack assault case.
Her boyfriend the main witness stopped cooperating or refused to give a statement, the cps recommended a caution but the police appealed that decision.

It just seems odd that the police haven’t got enough evidence, given what we’ve heard to charge mason greenwood with or without his girlfriends cooperation.
 
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