Greenwood

Gonna happen though isn't it, when a victim has posted her evidence on social media.

Who knows what was going on on that audio? You can't see it.

Maybe the prosecution now do know what was going on during that audio.. and realise that it wasn't what she was suggesting it was... which is why 'new material has come to light meaning there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction'.

Is what she posted 'evidence' and if it is, why can't it be used if it's so damning?
Has he paid her off?
Has she made a load of it up in a rage after an argument?
Would she get back with him if he'd done that?
If they are back together even if he did do it, would that tarnish the prosecution's argument?

Who knows.

What we do know is the lad is legally innocent and should be given and allowed the chance to move on with his career.
 
Who knows what was going on on that audio? You can't see it.

Maybe the prosecution now do know what was going on during that audio.. and realise that it wasn't what she was suggesting it was... which is why 'new material has come to light meaning there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction'.

Is what she posted 'evidence' and if it is, why can't it be used if it's so damning?
Has he paid her off?
Has she made a load of it up in a rage after an argument?
Would she get back with him if he'd done that?
If they are back together even if he did do it, would that tarnish the prosecution's argument?

Who knows.

What we do know is the lad is legally innocent and should be given and allowed the chance to move on with his career.
All possible, but probably why victims shouldn't post evidence online.
 
Who knows what was going on on that audio? You can't see it.

Maybe the prosecution now do know what was going on during that audio.. and realise that it wasn't what she was suggesting it was... which is why 'new material has come to light meaning there was no longer a realistic prospect of conviction'.

Is what she posted 'evidence' and if it is, why can't it be used if it's so damning?
Has he paid her off?
Has she made a load of it up in a rage after an argument?
Would she get back with him if he'd done that?
If they are back together even if he did do it, would that tarnish the prosecution's argument?

Who knows.

What we do know is the lad is legally innocent and should be given and allowed the chance to move on with his career.
Can't imagine being so keen to defend someone despite that audio and the information available.

Each to their own.
 
He said he's a Man Utd fan in another thread so maybe that explains it.
There it is then. My mate has had a season ticket at United for 20 years. His dad uses it while he lives here and he said he'd bin it if he played for them again. Each to their own but to be judged accordingly.
 
Can't imagine being so keen to defend someone despite that audio and the information available.

Each to their own.

I'm not defending him.

I'm saying nobody knows what's happened and you're all making sweeping statements without having a clue on what actually went on and why he hasn't be charged. He may have done what she said. He may not have.

If he's done it, he's a very very lucky boy and I hope he changes his behaviour/character.

If he hasn't done anything, then I'm glad he can move on with his life.
 
new evidence come to light is probably she is back with him and withdrawn from the prosecution as well

she now would need further evidence of him doing it again after going back to him for their to be a case to answer to as credibility will be gone now
if he is as bad as she made out then you would expect he be back to his old tricks sooner or later
 
It appeared to be very much an open and shut case. Yet clearly they feel that they simply won't win. You have to wonder why 'key witness' have pulled out? I presume they are hardly reliable and will get ripped apart by his legal team.

I think it's safe to say that posting the video online was a massive mistake. If she had just taken the evidence into the police a conviction would have been far easier to achieve.

Also interestingly they have apparently been back living together for some time. Whist I know this doesn't mean anything. It's all a bit strange going back to him. Although I know it weirdly happens a lot with people abused in a relationship.

I doubt we'll see him in a UTD shirt again. Yet interesting to see who takes him. I imagine a move abroad is most likely.
 
The only item that could be used against him is the Twitter sound bite and although it’s a difficult listen it isn’t evident that rape was apparent. Like many have suggested the female backed out of giving evidence. Footballers or high ranking sports personalities are easy targets. Greenwood needs educating as he stepped over the line with his stature maybe? We’ve seen this before with Ched Evans and some more recent cases.
 
but it's just the attempted rape charges being dropped isn't it, the coercive behaviour and assault causing actual bodily harm presumably have to go on?
 
As usual with situations like this it’s really impossible to form an opinion unless you have all the facts, which none of us do.
I’ve formed an opinion of him. Nasty, horrible piece of work. That is being polite.

I’ll be surprised if he gets high level sponsorship again.
 
Why would she want to go back to him if he is guilty ?
Why would he be back with her if he is innocent?
I'm confused
Should she not be charged with wasting police time and false allegations if she is claiming there was no attack?.
 

Seems he deliberately breached the conditions of his bail.. having been found in the company of the complainant back in October!
Jesus, so basically he’s been able to coerce for months and influence a victim and ulitmetly get to this stagez

Wouldn’t be surprised if she gets left high and dry within a month
 
He’s going to get hammered every week, it will be interesting to see how the man united fans react to him.
 
The thing is with no punishment or lessons learnt from this then I’m sure we will revisit these discussions at some point in the future.
 
All true, but I am still not comfortable with just assuming all those accused are guilty either.

As with most cases, I suppose it will just be a grey cloud hanging over them forever, sometimes fairly, sometimes not.

It is bizarre isn’t it.
The police do not have enough evidence to prosecute him

They don’t have enough evidence to prosecute me, you or anyone else on this thread.

Yet, according to many on here, Greenwood is a rapist, belongs behind bars, is a dreadful human being et al.
And, all the assumptions trotted out about why charges are dropped are just daft guesses.
 
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