Gove harassed on the street

There’s a school of thought suggesting for some strange reason that it was a stunt. The ex Tory councillor, the fact that he questioned an illegal lockdown when there isn’t one in place.
I have read an interesting account of the goings on and there is some cause for suspicion that all was not what it seemed in that skirmish. Anyway Patel has used the incident to push for curbs on online anonymity. I think it highlights how dangerous these anti pr*ck pricks can be
 
If we had to produce identity for social media those platforms would just have more information to sell to third parties so its a no from me.

People can be tracked if they break the law, there just isn't an appetite to do anything about it.
 
If we had to produce identity for social media those platforms would just have more information to sell to third parties so its a no from me.

People can be tracked if they break the law, there just isn't an appetite to do anything about it.
They already have all they need to verify your ID hence why they can track you so may as well just formalise it. Cowards need flushing out like the odious turds they are. Id be all for sites having autonomy to say "behave yourself or your name is getting posted". Would be like pouring salt on a slug.
 
They already have all they need to verify your ID hence why they can track you so may as well just formalise it. Cowards need flushing out like the odious turds they are. Id be all for sites having autonomy to say "behave yourself or your name is getting posted". Would be like pouring salt on a slug.
No they don't you are as identifiable as you want to be. Without a court order you can be anoymous quite easily, which should remain.
 
Whilst online anonymity probably should be challenged (and I think that's where we'll end up eventually), I'd be incredibly mistrusting of our current executive not to utilise it for their own means.

Sale of data and curbs to "freedom of expression" spring to mind. Control the media and you control the narrative.
 
I politely disagree with the latter part of your post. Internet has been about for 20+ years now and its been proven that people cant be trusted to act like responsible, respectful adults. Id take away the privilege of anonymity - why would you need it? If you dont have the courage of your convictions then what are they worth? The only good thing is that it gives a true indication of the nature of certain individuals, they abandon their daily facade of civility to expose themselves for the utter pigs they truly are and which theyre too ashamed to let those who know them see first hand.
No they don't you are as identifiable as you want to be. Without a court order you can be anoymous quite easily, which should remain
 
I politely disagree with the latter part of your post. Internet has been about for 20+ years now and its been proven that people cant be trusted to act like responsible, respectful adults. Id take away the privilege of anonymity - why would you need it? If you dont have the courage of your convictions then what are they worth? The only good thing is that it gives a true indication of the nature of certain individuals, they abandon their daily facade of civility to expose themselves for the utter pigs they truly are and which theyre too ashamed to let those who know them see first hand.
I explained why it's important and why none of the advantages of removing anonymity will make a difference.
 
I explained why it's important and why none of the advantages of removing anonymity will make a difference.
im sure it could be structured in a way that people were definitively identified, registered and traceable. i actually think people should have a licence to use the internet like a driving licence and have to pass a course in common decency and an IQ test wouldnt be a bad shout. im strongly gainst hate speech and extremism online and question anyone who seeks to preserve it
 
im sure it could be structured in a way that people were definitively identified, registered and traceable. i actually think people should have a licence to use the internet like a driving licence and have to pass a course in common decency and an IQ test wouldnt be a bad shout. im strongly gainst hate speech and extremism online and question anyone who seeks to preserve it
Hmm... You want access to the internet to be based on IQ? I think I am done with this conversation.
 
i actually think people should have a licence to use the internet like a driving licence and have to pass a course in common decency and an IQ test wouldnt be a bad shout. im strongly gainst hate speech and extremism online and question anyone who seeks to preserve it
You may be right. What we need is an app that can maintain your social credit score based on your activities, online or otherwise. This score could be used to determine if you're allowed to go to a football game or eat in a restaurant, rent a car (we won't own any) or a house (we won't own any). We can also link that score to the new fertility chip that injects hormones into the body to prevent pregnancy. I can think of a host of opportunities to control the population.
 
well if it secures the future of the planet and humankind then im all for it and any other extreme measures required. we cant have it both ways, we are effectively custodians of this planet for all nature and we have royally screwed it up, proven we cant be trusted so if we need to have our liberties taken away from us until nature rebalances and corrects our damage. in all seriousness, population control is as critical as anything else and probably more than most things to securing the future of this planet. its not inconceivable that we have already had a fertility control mechanism inserted into us by some nefarious means - if not its past due we were.
 
It's probable isn't it? Stage a stunt, right after an MP was killed. Then you can demand more protection for MPs and hide loads of attempts to scrutinise their actions under phony laws
A stunt you say surely they wouldn't stoop that low would they to use the murder of a colleague to hide scrutiny or use it as an excuse not to publish things like their expenses under the guise of security or even to use it to regulate social media (even though his murder had absolutely nothing to do with social media) where funnily enough their actions policies & wrongdoings are criticised or even revealed.

Nah they wouldn't would they?

Stunt You Say
 
You may be right. What we need is an app that can maintain your social credit score based on your activities, online or otherwise. This score could be used to determine if you're allowed to go to a football game or eat in a restaurant, rent a car (we won't own any) or a house (we won't own any). We can also link that score to the new fertility chip that injects hormones into the body to prevent pregnancy. I can think of a host of opportunities to control the population.
You‘ve been watching Black Mirror!
 
If we had to produce identity for social media those platforms would just have more information to sell to third parties so its a no from me.

People can be tracked if they break the law, there just isn't an appetite to do anything about it.
There are methods of creating easily traceable personal digital ID, without the big tech firms having access to it.
 
There are methods of creating easily traceable personal digital ID, without the big tech firms having access to it.
I am sure there is, but not without substantial cost as the registration would have to be centrally controlled. Or to put it another way, billions handed to a tory donor.

Right now, today, we have everything we need to track a user, even if they believe they are anonymous. Yes it requires a court order but it can be done.

It's a myth that we need Id registration. It isn't necessary to implement and uphold the legal framework we have currently. It's a waste of money, money that could be spent on say.... 20000 more police officers, for example.

Then there is the industry that would grow in fake registrations and the lack of diligence when prosecuting someone based on Id registration. Then we have the question of how secure people would keep these registrations and how secure a serco registration system would be.

I could go on. It just isn't necessary in any way shape or form.
 
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