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mitch_at_merseyside

mitch_at_merseyside

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I must say, whether you like Piers Morgan or not (I'm in the small minority who really likes him), you have to admit he's bang on the money every time he quizzes government ministers and calling out how shamefully inept they have been. I'm not a Tory voter nor a big supporter of the government, however when this broke out I felt it is vital to put politics to one side and put my trust and faith in what they are doing.

Roll on several weeks later, I just can't believe a word they say anymore. Yes I know that this is the beauty of politics, no change there, but in times of crisis like this, you would have thought they'd put all these soundbites and twisting of their words and promises to one side for once. We're constantly being told that they are 'following the science' but they are taking actions completely different to countries who also 'follow the science' and are doing much better than us in cases and deaths.

I'm so glad people like Piers are getting tough with politicians over the figures and false promises our politicians have made. The politicians themselves better get their act together because if this continues and the public loses more trust in them, we could end up seeing people completely neglect the rules and guidelines. I'm still at a loss how we have gotten to this stage, when you take into consideration the weeks we had to prepare. There has to be investigations when this is all over.
 
Funky_Chicken said:
That’s the get out of jail free card though isn’t it - when anything goes t*ts up they can just blame the scientists


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It is one step up from the dog ate my homework.

The usual Shaggy defence that we see all of the time from this bunch of liars. Led by the liar-in-chief.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
I think he's dreadful. From what I've seen he isn't holding people to account, he's just shouting at them. Give me a number, give me a number, give me a number, how dare you treat these people as statistics. It's just self righteous fury. I want to learn things from the news rather than seeing one **** shouting at another ****.
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I can see where you are coming from. I also dislike him intensely. I would say he is excessive on many occasions. However a lot of the politicians that go on there bring things on themselves. They know what they are going to get. Then they do not prepare in advance.

Some would say that Paxman was similar.
 
hopesoboro said:
You get Good Morning Britain in China?
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I have a DreamTV box which is like one of those Amazon boxes you connect your wifi to and stream channels. To be honest these days I'm just watching GMB and BBC News, anything else I watch is just on Youtube with my VPN.

Sheriff, he's shouting at them because people's lives are at stake and the government isn't equipping NHS and social care workers with sufficient equipment nor testing them. His reaction is like most people's when they keep using terms like 'capacity' when actually they promise 100k tests a day. Only 18,000 were tested yesterday but have 'capacity' of 40,000. The government have ballsed it up big time, and they are lucky this pandemic fell after the election because they've clearly shown they're unfit to govern.
 
Oh and what do many people will be working on now is the 100000 figure. It will not matter if the tests are successful, it will not matter if they go to the right people. I get the impression that they will now just be trying to say "we have the capacity for 100000 tests a day" and they'll stick them all in one testing centre in London that most people can't reach. They will be working towards the statistic rather than trying to get a proper testing regime in place. Because it isn't about providing a proper response to the coronavirus, it's about providing a statistic for the press to chew on. Idiot politicians
spanishman said:
I can see where you are coming from. I also dislike him intensely. I would say he is excessive on many occasions. However a lot of the politicians that go on there bring things on themselves. They know what they are going to get. Then they do not prepare in advance.

Some would say that Paxman was similar.
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They just seem to send some hopeless patsy on there.

I work in public service. We spent more time trying to cook up some statistic for an idiot press to chew on than trying to offer a decent service.

It's a chicken and egg situation.
 
And this isn't a Tory bash, the same thing was said to Labour when they weren't giving the military enough equipment and resources back in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I can sympathise with the fact that they haven't been able to get back to all British PPE suppliers and have needed mass orders from China and Turkey. But the fact this 100k a day number was plucked out of thin air and we are nowhere near it is disgraceful. Paxman, Neil and Morgan are the best journalists because they never let the politicians off the hook and don't buy the soundbites they rehearse and spout out several times a day on various media outlets.
 
It’s a game isn’t it ? Morgan gets shouty and irate which gets headlines in the papers and online which attracts wider attention, this increases audience figures or online clicks, which increases advertising revenue, that’s his job and he does that side of it very well. He works for a commercial organisation, who are primarily interested in the financial bottom line.

He does bombast at times, and comes with a set entrenched opinion, might even be his own or might be what his editors and producers want to put across, he’s good at picking up on weakness and turning the screw at that point.

He is holding politicians to account but is looking for the headline, rather than the detail, his style might be an acquired taste but a lot of political interviewers have used the shouty more aggressive style to good effect in the past and given that GMB is usually a lightweight morning TV show I think he’s using the current wider viewing platform to try and establish himself as a hard hitting political heavyweight.

Any broadcaster or journalist who challenges politicians with figures or with fact checked stories that contradict what they are saying is doing a decent job, and although there will always be a vanity side to it with Morgan, I do think he has done a decent job of highlighting shortfalls in some of the governments actions.
 
AM. Thats exactly what he is. A populist through and through who is incapable of running an interview without headline grabbing force. I have little trust in him.
 
I prefer Newsnight questioners where they allow an answer and then work through what's said till a bit of honesty comes out. They also have a second opinion which forces some debate. Unfortunately Ministers seem to avoid it though. I wonder why? I thought Matlis did well with Willets last night and, after an initial party line, there was common ground on very different viewpoints.
 
mitch_at_merseyside said:
I have a DreamTV box which is like one of those Amazon boxes you connect your wifi to and stream channels. To be honest these days I'm just watching GMB and BBC News, anything else I watch is just on Youtube with my VPN.

Sheriff, he's shouting at them because people's lives are at stake and the government isn't equipping NHS and social care workers with sufficient equipment nor testing them. His reaction is like most people's when they keep using terms like 'capacity' when actually they promise 100k tests a day. Only 18,000 were tested yesterday but have 'capacity' of 40,000. The government have ballsed it up big time, and they are lucky this pandemic fell after the election because they've clearly shown they're unfit to govern.
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I noticed he hasnt invited any of the CEO's of some of these care home providers on to rant and rave at yet. Is that because they aren't politicians?
He's ranting and raving at the northern Ireland secretary this morning was random and misplaced, of course that secretary isn't going to know the intricate ins and outs of PPE provision and medical figures like you would expect Hancock and Raab to know. And Piers knows he can twist people into a corner and doesn't give them a chance to respond.
 
Boris Johnson was quoting 250000 a day before he went to hospital - think he’d been watching too many Trump videos mind


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The shouty Morgan uses it as a tactic to put the politicians off guard. It works sometimes. A case of bringing them down to a level they are not used to and dropping their guard.
Marr et al just lets them give speeches and praise the NHS to pad out the time.
 
RandySavage said:
I noticed he hasnt invited any of the CEO's of some of these care home providers on to rant and rave at yet. Is that because they aren't politicians?
He's ranting and raving at the northern Ireland secretary this morning was random and misplaced, of course that secretary isn't going to know the intricate ins and outs of PPE provision and medical figures like you would expect Hancock and Raab to know. And Piers knows he can twist people into a corner and doesn't give them a chance to respond.
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Probably because they will have turned down the opportunity to appear, political parties have a duty to offer up a spokesperson and the questions or at least outline of the questions would be made available to that representative before they go on, they should know the relevant figures saying it’s not their department isn’t really an excuse given the way these things work, if they are on to talk about a different subject and were blindsided by the presenter then that show wouldn’t get any political guests in the future.

There will be considerable dialogue between the producer and the press liaison officer of the Party before any interview takes place, producer will want Patel and be offered Clarke by PLO, questions will be sent and agreed upon and anything they don’t like will be removed, that’s how it usually works, there are exceptions, think the Andrew Neil pre-election interviews he is given more freedom to ask what he wants, the technique on structured interviews is to use the prepared questions to lead them into unprepared areas so they can’t depend on script and in theory revert to something resembling the truth.
 
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Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
I think he's dreadful. From what I've seen he isn't holding people to account, he's just shouting at them. Give me a number, give me a number, give me a number, how dare you treat these people as statistics. It's just self righteous fury. I want to learn things from the news rather than seeing one **** shouting at another ****.
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Sherrif, I get you don't like Morgan, most don't. However, that is a mischaracterization of what happened. He was asking about the deaths in care homes of staff. He was told that by Sinon Clark that he didn't have that number. When Morgan challenged him about not knowing the number of care workers who had died, at that point Clark responded by charectarizing the deaths as statistics. I was angry at his use of the word "statistics".

Your mis-representation of the situation sounds like you have sympathy for the politicians that are making a major **** up of handling this emergency.
 
I don't have any strong feelings towards Morgan whatsoever. He's just a pantomime clown to wind up daft liberals. I'm despairing at the macho idiocy that purports to be journalism. Of course you feel anger. That's the intention. To get you angry and to keep you watching. To get clicks on websites. Spouting vacant numbers. It's not helpful in the slightest. It doesn't give any information. It doesn't shine any light on the subject. I don't give a damn if some public school **** can't remember a couple of numbers.
 
There’s only one question to ask when you keep getting the same answer

‘Can you evidence the science and what it tells you?’
 
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