Gibson keeps the club alive

atypical_boro said:
Maybe he just finances it and doesn't do anything else. Maybe Bausor makes literally all the decisions, and thats why we hear so little from him. In which case we're halfway to what people want, they just want a well-known ex-player or ex-manager making the decisions, not an unknown businessman.
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Ifs and buts and maybes........ we all make assumptions as we don’t have all the facts, but we do have evidence to work with. Over the years there are posters on here that have some inside knowledge of how the club is set up. To suggest Gibson is a hands off chairman seems to me about as realistic as winning the Euromillions tonight (and its a Thursday).

Past reports, club statements and various interviews show he is very much ‘in control’ in reality
 
Gibson makes EVERY significant decision at Boro and has done since buying it outright in 93.
He made largely good ones to 2006.
He saved the club at financial crisis, especially in 2012 with an injection of £50m.
Since 08 he has got every football decision wrong bar hiring Karanka.
Bausor may be a lickspittle no Mark, but it’s Gibson who calls all the shots.
 
atypical_boro said:
Of course, it might have almost zero impact if our revenue remains the same and he can't pick out any miracle workers, but from a PR perspective I think its all he can do now before he eventually sells up.
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But well run teams with considerably less revenue than we've had for the last five years are doing considerably better than us. That isn't revenue based, but the talent of those implementing the use of the revenue surely?
 
Caesium137 said:
But well run teams with considerably less revenue than we've had for the last five years are doing considerably better than us. That isn't revenue based, but the talent of those implementing the use of the revenue surely?
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Who is doing considerably better than us who you know for a fact has considerably less revenue? I’m not saying it’s not true but which clubs in particular?
 
atypical_boro said:
Who is doing considerably better than us who you know for a fact has considerably less revenue? I’m not saying it’s not true but which clubs in particular?
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Brentford, Sheff Utd last season. Quite a few actually
 

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Decent_Left said:
Brentford, Sheff Utd last season. Quite a few actually
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Brentford? Only this season. Hardly prolonged outperformance is it?

Sheff Utd have done exceptionally well but it’s not inconceivable that in 3 seasons time everything will have switched back round again. They’ve had a terrible couple of decades to be fair, especially compared to us.

You can’t expect us to outperform every other similar sized club all of the time, football just isn’t like that.
 
atypical_boro said:
Who is doing considerably better than us who you know for a fact has considerably less revenue? I’m not saying it’s not true but which clubs in particular?
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As mentioned, Brentford, Shef Utd, Norwich maybe as well, Burnley before that. By out perform it could be finishing position against investment, not necessarily as in out perform us in league position.

You would have to say that we were organised and effective under Karanka initially, we then invested in the squad, made the play-off final, failed, invested again and went up. Under Strachan, Pulis and Monk, we never seemed that organised (maybe a touch harsh on Pulis). We invested heavily with what we had at each of those times, especially under Monk, and it has been disastrous and we find ourselves possibly about to be relegated to the third tier without a pot to **** in.

Our revenue stream has been fairly constant I would have thought, then massively boosted by the PL season and parachute payments. The only difference that seems evident from the outside is Kenyon, Karanka and Orta were heavily involved for one of those periods. That can't be a coincidence surely?
 
I’m afraid Gibson does not keep this club alive.
He may keep it in the custom many are used to but the club will continue in some way shape or form whether he is here or not.
There are more clubs out there without a Gibson and, you know what, the fans of Portsmouth, Sunderland, Plymouth or whoever just crack on and support them.
 
Caesium137 said:
As mentioned, Brentford, Shef Utd, Norwich maybe as well, Burnley before that. By out perform it could be finishing position against investment, not necessarily as in out perform us in league position.

You would have to say that we were organised and effective under Karanka initially, we then invested in the squad, made the play-off final, failed, invested again and went up. Under Strachan, Pulis and Monk, we never seemed that organised (maybe a touch harsh on Pulis). We invested heavily with what we had at each of those times, especially under Monk, and it has been disastrous and we find ourselves possibly about to be relegated to the third tier without a pot to **** in.

Our revenue stream has been fairly constant I would have thought, then massively boosted by the PL season and parachute payments. The only difference that seems evident from the outside is Kenyon, Karanka and Orta were heavily involved for one of those periods. That can't be a coincidence surely?
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TBF I wouldn’t even say for certain that these clubs have lesser revenue than us. You could assume Brentford, but the others we’d just be guessing I think?
 
There are clubs out there with out a Gibson , most haven’t been in a European, FA and league cup final and become the only chairman to win silverware in over 100 yrs .

Before Gibson we’d achieved nothing , I’m not sure any buyer could achieve anything different unless their a billionaire.
 
The fans keep our club alive first and foremost not Steve Gibson, Steve Gibson’s is our leader and financier. He is also a fan thankfully. Neither party could exist at the club without the other. Although other owners are potentially available, are other fans........ no afraid not.

We co-exist quite well as a team, but both parties need to understand the others needs, hopes, dreams and realities of life. Gibson can not take our loyalty for granted, only the team has that luxury but equally, we can not take Gibson for granted either. He holds our hopes, dreams, wishes in his control. I hope we can co-exist like we did in the 90’s and early noughties. I would love to feel I could refer to him as Sir Steve again.
 
If he has a problem is that he's too emotionally involved in the club. He keeps spewing money over the club in hopes of promotion. Just like most of us would do if we had half a chance (though more likely our partners would stop us).

He needs to step back and implement a more sustainable model but to do that while carrying millions in salaries negotiated in the Premier League season isn't easy. If we can survive in this league we should have a better 2021. A few expensive contracts are up in the summer.

If we go down then the club is buggered. There'll be a fire sale.
 
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