Germany reclassified UK Risk area after Indian variant

Corcaigh_the_Cat said:
They're being forced to struggle due to our weak government.
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I’m not sure that’s true - this is a global pandemic and tour operators all over the world face the same issues. I’m not sure what the gvt do can make this any better or worse. We are as well placed as any European country in terms of numbers vaccinated, personally I just think travel is off the agenda for the time being which is devastating for the industry but needs must im afraid.
 
FatCat said:
I’m not sure that’s true - this is a global pandemic and tour operators all over the world face the same issues. I’m not sure what the gvt do can make this any better or worse. We are as well placed as any European country in terms of numbers vaccinated, personally I just think travel is off the agenda for the time being which is devastating for the industry but needs must im afraid.
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I'm afraid it is true. Weak management of the crisis and mixed messages are causing big problems in the tourism industry. Even the traffic light system isn't helping. with the government advising, but not stopping, to travel to red countries. It's a nightmare for travel operators not actually knowing whether they can refund trips or not.
 
FatCat said:
I’m not sure that’s true - this is a global pandemic and tour operators all over the world face the same issues. I’m not sure what the gvt do can make this any better or worse. We are as well placed as any European country in terms of numbers vaccinated, personally I just think travel is off the agenda for the time being which is devastating for the industry but needs must im afraid.
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Do you truly believe the stuff you type on this website
 
SmallTown said:
I'm afraid it is true. Weak management of the crisis and mixed messages are causing big problems in the tourism industry. Even the traffic light system isn't helping. with the government advising, but not stopping, to travel to red countries. It's a nightmare for travel operators not actually knowing whether they can refund trips or not.
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So what could they have done differently that would have resulted in a significant increase in the coffers of the tourism industry?
 
FatCat said:
So what could they have done differently that would have resulted in a significant increase in the coffers of the tourism industry?
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If we had managed the pandemic better last year we wouldn’t have been locked down for the best part of 5 months this year, therefore allowing travel earlier.
 
FatCat said:
So what could they have done differently that would have resulted in a significant increase in the coffers of the tourism industry?
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T's not necessarily in increase in the coffers. It's a protection of the decrease. The shambles way this government has handled lockdowns and the way they "stop" you from going places but don't actually stop you is causing massive problems in the tourism industry. A government with a clear and concise road plan would have help travel companies budget better and not sell holidays not knowing what the rules were and what potential cancellation fees would be incurred.
 
GazC_MFC said:
If we had managed the pandemic better last year we wouldn’t have been locked down for the best part of 5 months this year, therefore allowing travel earlier.
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Where to ? Where would people have been able to travel to

you said yourself earlier you don’t care about the euros and many people will be like minded and not want to travel until this is over.

for me until the world solves this problem tourism will be adversely impacted.
 
FatCat said:
Where to ? Where would people have been able to travel to

you said yourself earlier you don’t care about the euros and many people will be like minded and not want to travel until this is over.

for me until the world solves this problem tourism will be adversely impacted.
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The UK. Would be a huge boost for tourism in the UK like we've never seen before and improve our balance of payments. Over twice as much money is spent abroad compared with the income from foreign tourism.
 
bear66 said:
The UK. Would be a huge boost for tourism in the UK like we've never seen before and improve our balance of payments. Over twice as much money is spent abroad compared with the income from foreign tourism.
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That’s a fair point - if we had handled the situation domestically better then maybe we could have had domestic tourism, staycations etc and would have seen an improvement at home. Let’s see maybe as we have a lot vaccinated that will be the first signs of tourism recovering on the domestic front.

the argument being held above seemed to be about international tourism which I maintain you can’t just blame the gvt of one country for.
 
FatCat said:
Where to ? Where would people have been able to travel to

you said yourself earlier you don’t care about the euros and many people will be like minded and not want to travel until this is over.

for me until the world solves this problem tourism will be adversely impacted.
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But, as I've described, it's more adversely affected in countries that aren't handling the crisis well. We have handled every aspect of the crisis apart from vaccinations poorly. Which hasn't helped our economy. Especially with the joint impact of you know what .

It's the unclear and unspecific rules around travelling that are causing the biggest problems to tourism. And they are causing very big ones. There will probably be at least one big operator goes to the wall thanks to not being able to manage refunds. Or the loss of reputation from people not understanding the rules. I know of many people demanding refunds for holidays that they aren't eligible for.
 
FatCat said:
I’m not sure that’s true - this is a global pandemic and tour operators all over the world face the same issues. I’m not sure what the gvt do can make this any better or worse. We are as well placed as any European country in terms of numbers vaccinated, personally I just think travel is off the agenda for the time being which is devastating for the industry but needs must im afraid.
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The government could have stopped the Indian flights and marked India as on the red list a lot sooner, as usual they delayed too long, potentially costing many lives, if this were a busy there would be a case for corporate manslaughter.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
The government could have stopped the Indian flights and marked India as on the red list a lot sooner, as usual they delayed too long, potentially costing many lives, if this were a busy there would be a case for corporate manslaughter.
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Definitely. The Government have been pretty bad throughout, yet are not held accountable because people like good old Boris.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
The government could have stopped the Indian flights and marked India as on the red list a lot sooner, as usual they delayed too long, potentially costing many lives, if this were a busy there would be a case for corporate manslaughter.
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Whilst I agree on this. I don't think it addresses @FatCat point about tourism. In fact the opposite. We could operate tours to India when the competent and less corrupt countries had already banned them.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
The government could have stopped the Indian flights and marked India as on the red list a lot sooner, as usual they delayed too long, potentially costing many lives, if this were a busy there would be a case for corporate manslaughter.
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Indians make up about 2.5% of the UK and naturally travel a lot between home and their ancestral lands. With Coronavirus and the variant being rife in the Far East, "stopping flights" is quite involved and I'm not sure that anything better could have been done without a lot of British citizens being locked out of the UK.
 
the_holgate_roof said:
The government could have stopped the Indian flights and marked India as on the red list a lot sooner, as usual they delayed too long, potentially costing many lives, if this were a busy there would be a case for corporate manslaughter.
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Yes I agree with that - I wish we had locked down the country many times so much earlier than we did.
 
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