Genuinely think he needs sacking

I don’t know, how much of it is down to the manager?

Wilder failed here, and he’s currently at the top end of the table.

Woodgate failed, but did really well at Bournemouth.

Southgate got fired, yet ended up being one of englands most successful managers.

Is it just the club? Is there a hoodoo?
 
It's not just the manager that needs changing, we need a root and branch change. We do not need ex Boro players in management roles. Under the leadership of Gibson that will not happen. I watch Leadbitter with ear buds in watching an tablet. Is he on Netflix ?
 
I don’t know, how much of it is down to the manager?

Wilder failed here, and he’s currently at the top end of the table.

Woodgate failed, but did really well at Bournemouth.

Southgate got fired, yet ended up being one of englands most successful managers.

Is it just the club? Is there a hoodoo?
McLaren had an amazing spell here. Failed at Forest, Derby, QPR, Newcastle
Karanka had his best spell as a manager here. Failed at Forest, Birmingham
Bryan Robson had an amazing spell here. Did rubbish at Bradford and not so good at West Brom.

Stop choosing a narrative to spin.
 
I’ve really enjoyed Carricks time here. It isn’t always going to be plain sailing. But jeez we are 1 point off 5th and want him sacked.
 
I think the calls for Carrick to go, even when in touch with the play offs are understandable as people are sick of seeing the same weaknesses in our defensive game. I think people have a right to question what is going on during the week at the training ground as we don't seem to be working on addressing our deficiencies.

Personally, I think everyone is entitled to their view on what happens with Carrick but I think it's largely irrelevant what we think. The transfer window business suggests the club are backing him for now and I would fully expect him to be here until the summer as we'll probably do enough to be around the play offs until then.

Carrick has obviously only signed a new deal last summer that was 3 years taking him through until mid 2027. That pay off would be wages for 2.5 seasons currently and Gibson will have to factor those financials into things too if he wants to pull the trigger.

The frustrating thing is we seem to be getting organised off the pitch for the first time in a while (if we ignore the club shop/shirt shenanigans), we just need to get on pitch matters sorted. I would still love Carrick to be a success here but he needs to sort the team set up off the ball asap as the definition of madness is doing the same things time after time and expecting different results. As things stand opposition teams know if they press us high we can easily gift them goals and also if they get a goal back our confidence drains quickly as the players know we can capitulate even if we're winning 3-0.
 
I think the calls for Carrick to go, even when in touch with the play offs are understandable as people are sick of seeing the same weaknesses in our defensive game. I think people have a right to question what is going on during the week at the training ground as we don't seem to be working on addressing our deficiencies.

Personally, I think everyone is entitled to their view on what happens with Carrick but I think it's largely irrelevant what we think. The transfer window business suggests the club are backing him for now and I would fully expect him to be here until the summer as we'll probably do enough to be around the play offs until then.

Carrick has obviously only signed a new deal last summer that was 3 years taking him through until mid 2027. That pay off would be wages for 2.5 seasons currently and Gibson will have to factor those financials into things too if he wants to pull the trigger.

The frustrating thing is we seem to be getting organised off the pitch for the first time in a while (if we ignore the club shop/shirt shenanigans), we just need to get on pitch matters sorted. I would still love Carrick to be a success here but he needs to sort the team set up off the ball asap as the definition of madness is doing the same things time after time and expecting different results. As things stand opposition teams know if they press us high we can easily gift them goals and also if they get a goal back our confidence drains quickly as the players know we can capitulate even if we're winning 3-0.
I assume there will be break clause's as all of the managers have now - wouldn't shock me if play offs reached was one of them
 
hes not capable of changing things,or not prepared to and that will be his downfall
We've gone to a back three before, he has adapted and changed when he thought he really had to.

We are painted into a corner somewhat now though,

No Jones for RWB, only three CB's so nobody to sub or rotate, we have recruited heavily (presumably) for the three positions behind Conway. We only have two CM's who are worth playing, plus a non-natural replacement for the two starters and a waning injured older player.

So he can't really go with an extra CM or CB as we'd have no option from the bench, we have no RWB, and have an abundance of attacking midfield / forward types.

I think it is make 4-2-3-1 work or bust unfortunately.
 
Hel be ticking boxes based on league position although we have dropped slightly . 3 relegated clubs you can on paper assume take top 3 spots then after that know one has a divine right to finish just behind them . But you do have to look at the way we’ve dropped pts over the season and say we have under achieved especially based in money spent .we have just last a game without our 2 strikers starting . Hel be judged at the end if the season though won’t he , all we can do is hope but we probably missed our opportunity when archer, Ackpom and Ramsey were here .
We lacked basic discipline and organisation skills youd expect from a manager .
 
A lot of people here seem to think it's Carrick selling our best players, and using the money to buy players who will be good in 6 months to 3 years time, and also assumes they're all going to work. He's 100% not doing that, and that was 100% evident on day 1 when he got called "the coach".

What is happening is we sell his best players, or lose them in other ways and then he gets given a replacement (sometimes). We obviously didn't replace those 3-5 key loan players we had when he first came either. Remember Archer, Ramsay, Steffen, Muniz, Giles (when he was on form)? This year we've had 1, Doak. I'm not counting the new ones who haven't been here 5 minutes yet.

It's extremely difficult to deal with this turnover, whilst also bringing all these players on so that the model works. The model is working though, along with the coach, we've got better and made a transfer profit over a mangers(coaches) time, and I can't recall us doing that, ever. I can recall plenty of times we've stayed the same or got worse after major investment, and a few times we climbed higher by breaking the bank more than our competition.

We're also seemingly trying to buy players for our set system, or buying players who the coach can hopefully adapt into that. This is 100% fine and expected, but the problems this creates is you sort of only end up with one way of playing. That way for us is the quick short passing and gain rapid yards up the pitch style. Changing a formation to one which the older and newer players are not used to is not going to be easy, not at the micro level of detail which this level of football needs. It's not like changing from a 4-2-3-1 to a 3-5-2 on sandy flats, the players there don't even know 4-2-3-1, so when they change to 3-5-2 there's no real loss, you just get "different, but still bad".

We've not really had many of our best players available all season either. I can only think of Azaz who's not been injured, but he wouldn't have been listed as one of our best players at the beginning of the season. Similar to LL, he's had his injuries and also had his agent in his ear all year, and Carrick's had to pick him, knowing he'll be out the door soon. I'm 100% sure he didn't want to have to start Forss up top on his own on Monday, he hadn't started a game up top for a year.

I'm not sure what we can do about the mistakes, I don't think there is really a way to train these out of players. Better players will make less mistakes of course, but he's not buying the players, or asking us to sell our better players. Due to the way we play with possession and passing, and trying more risky/ quick passes I suppose it does open up the door for us giving away the ball cheaply when we're committed (and not prepared to be defending).

Anyone asking for Carrick to get the chop wants to maybe have a think of how good our previous managers have been, when we've been backing them in the transfer market, buying their own players and we've been making a massive loss and not getting any better.
 
The problem is I think too many people expect us to be in the top 2 and to win every game.

The reality is different, the championship is like something out of mad max. There is no perfect formula.

We are doing our best, we will likely finish in the play offs and then it’s anybody’s game.
 
Sadly, I’ve had enough of Carrick. He’s had enough time to make this squad his own and we seem very unbalanced. Plenty of attack (to the point where not everyone can play), yet we seem to have failed to address our weak defence and our midfield that gets steam rolled.
 
The problem is I think too many people expect us to be in the top 2 and to win every game.

The reality is different, the championship is like something out of mad max. There is no perfect formula.

We are doing our best, we will likely finish in the play offs and then it’s anybody’s game.
I think people expected and expect progression this season.
The squad is stronger than it was last season.
We've had injury problems this season but nowhere near as badly as we were hit last season. Injuries were used as an excuse for missing play-offs last season. The general consensus was that the squad was strong enough to finish higher but we'd been massive impacted with injuries.
I don't think it is unrealistic to expect to improve our points total and league position this season from last and we aren't on course to do that.

I fully expected to get to 80+ points this season and at least be in the conversation for the top 2 but failing that be a solid play-off team. Similar to the 22/23 season. We are way behind that.

Look at the changes we made over the summer.

Coburn for Conway
Greenwood for Doak
O'Brien for Morris
Luke Thomas for Borges
Silvera for Hamilton
McNair for Edmondson
Plus we added Burgzorg

Yet playing at pretty much exactly the same level as were last season. the same problems exist. Poor home form. Conceded too many goals. Etc Etc.
 
McLaren had an amazing spell here. Failed at Forest, Derby, QPR, Newcastle
Karanka had his best spell as a manager here. Failed at Forest, Birmingham
Bryan Robson had an amazing spell here. Did rubbish at Bradford and not so good at West Brom.

Stop choosing a narrative to spin.

Stop taking everything so seriously.

If I was making a serious point I wouldn’t use the word ‘hoodoo’
 
I have a question.

In all the preparations for the game by all the professional coaches, who thought playing offside at the half way line was a good move against Isodor? Who has shown time and again this season he is quick. How wasn't this looked at fgs.

Less said about Ayling the better he has been shot all season
Edmundson was out of position so tried to play him off.
 
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