Freeports

GazC_MFC said:
No I don’t, but plenty do, and it will influence votes. It’s the definition of a political gimmick
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The thing is Gaz if someone gets a job through freeports that improves their lives perhaps they should vote tory. Labour have to have a better story. Any story might do at the minute.
 
Laughing said:
The thing is Gaz if someone gets a job through freeports that improves their lives perhaps they should vote tory. Labour have to have a better story. Any story might do at the minute.
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Same as above, they keep their job, vote Labour and make more people’s lives better
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Not really, it is the same old posters who would love to see the UK fail at all costs.

Big things are starting to happen at Tees Port and it is only going to get better.
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That's a complete fallacy and you know it. Not one person wants to see the UK fail.

The latest news that Freeports aren't what we were told they should be should come as no surprise. On a brexit built on lies. This is just another one to add to the mix. It's sad to me the way the British public let's itself be conned
 
As I have said now on countless threads, the freeport is a big white elephant that will not yield the benefits this government claim. It was always a nonsense. All you needed to do was read a bit. Nobody is playing them down, simply stating the facts. And nobody wants the UK to fail. That is a singularly stupid claim.
 
Smalltown/Adi - My statement maybe is OTT regarding wanting to see the country fail but you have got to agree though that it is the same old posters who point out the short comings of Brexit, etc.

I personally don't think it will be a white elephant on Teesside and companies would be foolish not to take advantage of the tax relief they can gain. Things are starting to take off down there now with the announcement of the wind farm and carbon capture plants.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Smalltown/Adi - My statement maybe is OTT regarding wanting to see the country fail but you have got to agree though that it is the same old posters who point out the short comings of Brexit, etc.

I personally don't think it will be a white elephant on Teesside and companies would be foolish not to take advantage of the tax relief they can gain. Things are starting to take off down there now with the announcement of the wind farm and carbon capture plants.
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What does it matter if it's the same old posters pointing out the short comings of brexit

I'm tired of repeating this but each thread represents an entirely separate shortcoming of brexit. It's not repeated and rehashed news. It's another issue with the process. You'd think the volume of threads would be enough to make people go "Blimey, yeah there does seem to be a lot of problems". Instead people are being criticised for bringing up the problems. I guess it's easier to shoot the messenger .
Why did the Tories get rid of Freeports before?
 
There is some truth that freeports will shift jobs to freeports from other areas. Other areas will include not just other British areas, but in a global market from all over the globe and certainly from Western Europe. Free ports generally do it through relief on import duty. It will help business owners in Freeport zones, but also damage business owners outside the zones so overall its not a particular pro-business measure. The deal the Irish Government did with Apple to avoid paying tax on its profits in rest of the EU dwarfs Freeports and minimised tax for Apple @ 2%. The losers were the governments of the rest of the EU and their public finances, people on Teesside see it indirectly in some of the public sector cuts from less government expenditure.

This is the whole idea of balancing economic growth and opportunities around the UK and even wider a field. The EU tries to achieve this with its regional subsidies e.g. paying for the relaying out of the seafront at Redcar and the Vertical Pier. I would hope everyone on this board agrees the UK economy needs some rebalancing so economic growth and employment oportunities are more evenly spread on a geographic basis. There are many ways the rebalancing can be done, but Freeports certainly has the potential to be one, especially linked with lower taxes in those zones.

I would be interested to know what the anti-Freeport Zone posters suggest as methods to level up economically struggling regions of the UK, like Teesside.
 
SmallTown said:
What does it matter if it's the same old posters pointing out the short comings of brexit

I'm tired of repeating this but each thread represents an entirely separate shortcoming of brexit. It's not repeated and rehashed news. It's another issue with the process. You'd think the volume of threads would be enough to make people go "Blimey, yeah there does seem to be a lot of problems". Instead people are being criticised for bringing up the problems. I guess it's easier to shoot the messenger .
Why did the Tories get rid of Freeports before?
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It doesn't matter to you because you are happy whinging on about Brexit.

Redwurzel answered the rest of your post in a more eloquent way that I could.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Smalltown/Adi - My statement maybe is OTT regarding wanting to see the country fail but you have got to agree though that it is the same old posters who point out the short comings of Brexit, etc.
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So what? You'd prefer these same posters that keep pointing out the shortcomings to join others with their heads in the sand? To nod along with the rhetoric? Critically analyzing and objectively scrutinizing these outlandish claims is not the same as wanting the country to fail. In fact it's the opposite if anything. Blindly agreeing that the unicorns are going to turn up any minute is doing far more damage than any critical analysis ever can.

Redwurzel said:
There are many ways the rebalancing can be done, but Freeports certainly has the potential to be one, especially linked with lower taxes in those zones.
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No it doesn't. It will not produce the benefits claimed.
 
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