France Placed on Quarantine List

HundredRoom said:
I don't think that many of the idiots who have chosen to holiday abroard during a pandemic will be too bothered about having to go in to quarantine on return.
In fact quite the opposite. Not sure their employers will have the same view
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I would assume, like I did, they would check with their employers first? You book knowing the risks so you try and mitigate against them? I did. It would be stupid not to.
 
1finny said:
In short - Yes..... but
When you return to UK you may be asked if you have been anywhere else.
Depends what you say next

I came back from France via Caen and they asked me in case I’d been to Spain.
I hadn’t but wouldn’t have told them if I had - like many on the Ferry who’d driven across from Spain
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its the fact that many dont follow the rules that makes it all just a little farcical. Absolutely Lizards use the fact that its Switzerland you are entering from and enjoy the cycling! I assume it will go ahead
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Because of course those pesky foreigners are so bad at containing the virus, whereas the good old British have it beaten and so the only way you can catch it is by going abroad? FFS
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not what I said - but twist away. Equally as bad to sit on a beach in Bournemouth without a care for anyone else if you are worried about the pesky foreigner inference
feel free to catch the virus wherever you like
 
HundredRoom said:
not what I said - but twist away. Equally as bad to sit on a beach in Bournemouth without a care for anyone else if you are worried about the pesky foreigner inference
feel free to catch the virus wherever you like
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You said "that many of the idiots who have chosen to holiday abroad during a pandemic " they key words being "idiots" and "abroad" suggesting that going abroad = idiotic.

My point was some of these countries have handled this pandemic MUCH better than we have, and so why going abroad makes you somehow more likely to catch the virus I have no idea.

Your suggestion was that somehow going abroad was more irresponsible than staying in the UK.
 
Are any other countries doing what we're doing, haphazardly putting announcing countries being added to a quarantine list when most people are going to sleep at night? Or just us?
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
Your suggestion was that somehow going abroad was more irresponsible than staying in the UK.
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only in that its more difficult logistically.
The difference is that you are unlikely to be quarantined returning from Bournemouth.

What the real inference is that there are some who want to be quarantined on full pay. and a saturday out in Calais serves its purpose
 
HundredRoom said:
only in that its more difficult logistically.
The difference is that you are unlikely to be quarantined returning from Bournemouth.

What the real inference is that there are some who want to be quarantined on full pay. and a saturday out in Calais serves its purpose
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..and there are others who don't want to be quarantined on full pay, as they're perfectly capable (and have been for the last 5 months) of doing their job whilst in isolation, through remote working. But you labelled everyone who is going abroad as "idiots".
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Are any other countries doing what we're doing, haphazardly putting announcing countries being added to a quarantine list when most people are going to sleep at night? Or just us?
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I imagine the method and timings of the announcement is due to government incompetence or the need to get us talking about something that isn't their latest failure.

Not sure if other countries are doing the same, but I have no issues with altering the quarantine rules per se. France looked OK a couple of weeks ago but now is seeing big spikes. I agree the, the method of delivery is terrible at best. The government deliberately give either vague guidance or announce things at odd times so that, if there is any confusion, they can blame the people for not following the rules and absolve themselves
 
The ruling is incredibly stupid and serves very little purpose in reducing the risk of infection as it is, two families can take identical holidays, visit the same places, eat at the same restaurants, stay in the same hotel and shop in the same stores, one is booked on the 3.55BST flight out of Paris the other the 4.05BST flight but only one family has to quarantine, it’s madness.

Simply quarantine everyone who was in France on those days or quarantine everyone who leaves for France from tomorrow knowing that quarantine will apply, this is further proof, that regardless of political theory, that the current Government struggle to apply simple logistics and organisation to policy.
 
Eurotunnel saying "dont just turn up at the terminal" - they claim they "have no more capacity".
That could be interesting - not everyone listens to the BBC on their way home:unsure:
 
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HundredRoom said:
I don't think that many of the idiots who have chosen to holiday abroard during a pandemic will be too bothered about having to go in to quarantine on return.
In fact quite the opposite. Not sure their employers will have the same view
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Why are we idiots to choose to holiday abroad?

I have felt safer here in France than I have during lockdown in Britain. We are in our own little bubble, have chose not to visit certain places we would normally go to and the restaurants we have visited are better equipped for distancing than any I have seen at home.

Yes I will have to isolate on my return and my employer will be disappointed, but I am more concerned about going back to work with 1,250 eleven to sixteen year olds than being here in France.
 
Norman_Conquest said:
Why are we idiots to choose to holiday abroad?

I have felt safer here in France than I have during lockdown in Britain. We are in our own little bubble, have chose not to visit certain places we would normally go to and the restaurants we have visited are better equipped for distancing than any I have seen at home.

Yes I will have to isolate on my return and my employer will be disappointed, but I am more concerned about going back to work with 1,250 eleven to sixteen year olds than being here in France.
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Well said. It's not idiocy in the slightest. It's making a judgment call. I'm sure Norman knew the risks and the chance of there being a quarantine, just as I did when I booked my holiday. He's staying safe, in a country that has better control over the virus than us, despite the spike. I think calling him and others like him idiots is unfair. I would have done the same as him if my holiday was booked for this month.
 
If you need a holiday, then you need a holiday. Everyone has been through a lot of pressure recently and it is good to have some down time. I live in Devon, the police are declaring that Devon & Cornwall are full. They are reporting a rise in anti social behaviour and it is very difficult to social distance in many small towns. The locals aren't venturing out and are in their own self imposed lock down.
Therefore if you need a holiday the other options are to go abroad and until recently they had managed the situation better then the UK.
What I don't understand is why we are criticising the government for imposing a quarantine. We criticised them at the beginning of the pandemic to be slow to lock down and impose restrictions for people flying in to the country. So lets home they have learned a lesson and are now imposing restrictions. I do understand the criticism about the loopholes and poor communication.
 
I assume that everybody who has gone on holiday in the last week or two already weighed up the risks of going and this coming into force so I am also therefore assuming most will have no issue isolating for 14 days when they get home. Great if they can.

If they do have serious work issues though then you do have to question why they chose to take the risk?
 
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