Forss

When he was subbed and clapped off walking around the pitch he was high fiveing all the kids with arms outstretched on the front rows.. doesn’t sound like much, but it will have made their day and will no doubt be a memory the cherish for years to come.

Great stuff, class act, lovely lad.. UTB!
 
Alexander Supertramp said:
If you say so
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Alexander Supertramp said:
Why do some posters need some positive affirmation and to feel the need to claim some sort of high ground in terms of football knowledge.

Did your mummy not give her little soldier enough positive enforcement?
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Two replies 8:14 and 11:04 on a saturday night. Glad to know I was living rent free in your head for most of saturday night.

Your rather personal and unprovoked response tells me that your amateur psychology is likely a reflection on yourself.

Now if my (or anyones elses) footballing knowledge threatens you there are more adult ways to react. YEs, you have the right to act like a 12 year old spitting insults in a playground, or you can go educate yourself and learn more about how to analyse players, here you go, you can sign up to The FA Player Identification course (https://learn.englandfootball.com/c...alent-identification-and-scouting-in-football) right here OR just continue reveling in your ignorance if you prefer
 
Diego said:
What I like about Carrick is he’s finding a way to get goalscorers on the pitch. A front 4 of Forss, Akpom, McGree and Crooks screams out goals.

Crooks always chips in, Forss is a brilliant finisher, Akpom is the main man and top scorer in the league and McGree has the spectacular in him. Very clever from Carrick.

Then we have the likes of Archer and Watmore as options and I haven’t even mentioned Jones. All very positive.
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I think we've been guilty for a ong time of having too many water carriers and dicky dancers, but not concentrating on getting 3 or more people that can hit a ball on the pitch.

Carrick has stripped us back to some basics, got rid of complications and new wave tactics, 4 at the back, two people that can pass in CM, 3 options to get in the space between opposition Mid-Def and get on the half turn, and 4 regular goalscorers on the pitch.
 
BoroMart said:
I think we've been guilty for a ong time of having too many water carriers and dicky dancers, but not concentrating on getting 3 or more people that can hit a ball on the pitch.

Carrick has stripped us back to some basics, got rid of complications and new wave tactics, 4 at the back, two people that can pass in CM, 3 options to get in the space between opposition Mid-Def and get on the half turn, and 4 regular goalscorers on the pitch.
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Totally agree. It’s actually similar in a way to how Karanka saw the game but with more of a desire to pass the ball and draw teams on to us. Similar formation though and the idea of having scorers of goals in attacking areas 👍
 
18MFC76 said:
Really like Forss. He's an excellent finisher and works his socks off for the team. Pleased for the lad as he must have been regretting coming here initially after Wilder dismissed him as a 'development striker'. Absolutely ridiculous.

My son's football team walked onto the pitch with the players yesterday and my son walked out with Forss. He said he was brilliant with him and was chatting to him from the tunnel onto the pitch 👏.
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I like to see the players chatting to the kids in the tunnel. It costs em nowt and probably means a lot to the kids.
 
BoroMart said:
Two replies 8:14 and 11:04 on a saturday night. Glad to know I was living rent free in your head for most of saturday night.

Your rather personal and unprovoked response tells me that your amateur psychology is likely a reflection on yourself.

Now if my (or anyones elses) footballing knowledge threatens you there are more adult ways to react. YEs, you have the right to act like a 12 year old spitting insults in a playground, or you can go educate yourself and learn more about how to analyse players, here you go, you can sign up to The FA Player Identification course (https://learn.englandfootball.com/c...alent-identification-and-scouting-in-football) right here OR just continue reveling in your ignorance if you prefer
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There does seem to be a bit more angst on this board over the last few years. I wonder if it's because we are all turning into aged curmudgeon together.
 
gravy173 said:
I think the comparison with stuani is a good one as in the scoring goals and being a pretty ineffective”traditional” winger (especially when Adomah was kept out of the team for him). Some of our attacks break down with him (like they do with Jones) but if he keeps scoring goals and creating for others as a second striker rather than as a winger we can only trust in carricks opinion (see also crooks as the main striker, it shouldn’t work due to his lack of mobility and pace but invariably does!)
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Yep different types of players but a good comparison. The play out wide is more about working hard and keeping shape, with license to pop up in the box when attacking. With Giles delivery being so good from the left it makes sense to have another finisher popping up in the box.
 
Diego said:
What I like about Carrick is he’s finding a way to get goalscorers on the pitch. A front 4 of Forss, Akpom, McGree and Crooks screams out goals.

Crooks always chips in, Forss is a brilliant finisher, Akpom is the main man and top scorer in the league and McGree has the spectacular in him. Very clever from Carrick.

Then we have the likes of Archer and Watmore as options and I haven’t even mentioned Jones. All very positive.
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Spot on for me this.

Wilder of course used to bang on about xG, the implication being it wasn't his fault and his "team/formation/tactics" was working but there wasn't anything he could about players missing chances.

I do think xG is actually a useful stat. But what a lot of people seem to fail to grasp is that it doesn't show you how good a team is. It shows you how many chances they create and how good those chances are.

Wilder must know this, so it always seemed baffling that the information suggested we were missing a lot of good chances and yet he kept leaving the best finisher in the squad on the bench.

I don't think it's any coincidence we've started taking more chances as soon as we started getting more goalscorers onto the pitch and playing them in positions where they're more likely to have chances fall to them.

Seems like the data suggested we had a clear problem and Carrick has taken a fairly simple, but effective approach to rectify it.
 
BoroMart said:
Two replies 8:14 and 11:04 on a saturday night. Glad to know I was living rent free in your head for most of saturday night.

Your rather personal and unprovoked response tells me that your amateur psychology is likely a reflection on yourself.

Now if my (or anyones elses) footballing knowledge threatens you there are more adult ways to react. YEs, you have the right to act like a 12 year old spitting insults in a playground, or you can go educate yourself and learn more about how to analyse players, here you go, you can sign up to The FA Player Identification course (https://learn.englandfootball.com/c...alent-identification-and-scouting-in-football) right here OR just continue reveling in your ignorance if you prefer
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I don't think there's anything twelve year old about calling out "I'm great other people are rubbish posts".
 
festa5 said:
Wilder of course used to bang on about xG, the implication being it wasn't his fault and his "team/formation/tactics" was working but there wasn't anything he could about players missing chances.

I do think xG is actually a useful stat. But what a lot of people seem to fail to grasp is that it doesn't show you how good a team is. It shows you how many chances they create and how good those chances are.
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if you under perform on xG over a sustained period, I'd say it's a reflection of the manager, his motivation and culture, as much as anything
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
I don't think there's anything twelve year old about calling out "I'm great other people are rubbish posts".
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"Did your mummy not give her little soldier enough positive enforcement?" - if you don't think that is behaving like a 12 year old, then that says much more about you than me.

I simply pointed out the truism that people were slating Forss as a waste of money a couple of weeks ago. I'm not one of those people, in fact I stood on here and defended him. Now if that reality is a little difficult for you to stomach then again, that is your problem not mine
 
Alexander Supertramp said:
I sense he found the hat was fitting rather snugly, hence the war and peace response 🤣
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You obviously only read the synopsis to war and peace, because my response was two paragraphs. Carry on with your childish behaviour.

Sorry to burst your bubble of self-importance but you don't get to police my thoughts and words. If they are too difficult for you to read in an adult way then you can always use the block button.
 
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BoroMart said:
if you under perform on xG over a sustained period, I'd say it's a reflection of the manager, his motivation and culture, as much as anything
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Well yeah there's definitely an element of who is more likely to take a chance. A player who knows his manager will support him if he misses it or a player who knows his manager will have a go at him for it?

See also: Tony Pulis. Particularly his public comments on an almost weekly basis about Assombalonga.
 
festa5 said:
Well yeah there's definitely an element of who is more likely to take a chance. A player who knows his manager will support him if he misses it or a player who knows his manager will have a go at him for it?
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Having a no blame culture is really important for any successful team in any business, I don't get the impression that existed under Wilder
 
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