For the Covid nerds - lots of data

Maybe I just dont spend my entire life on here, so yes, a few days go by. Inevitably you spout rubbish again though and I comment. Your arrogance and missguided self-importance knows no bounds

Anyway, let's get back to the thread. Engaging with you is futile. Merry Christmas
It’s classic Artie. Step on to have a go at me, when I have a go back you say it’s pointless engaging. You seem slow to learn this. Probably because your own sense of self righteousness feels you have to be seen to be getting a dig in before you pretend to play the bigger man and say “oh I won’t engage. At least you spared me the condescending and pious “I’m trying to do you a favour” rubbish this time. I can be thankful for that
 
It’s classic Artie. Step on to have a go at me, when I have a go back you say it’s pointless engaging. You seem slow to learn this. Probably because your own sense of self righteousness feels you have to be seen to be getting a dig in before you pretend to play the bigger man and say “oh I won’t engage. At least you spared me the condescending and pious “I’m trying to do you a favour” rubbish this time. I can be thankful for that
You writing that about me or you? You haven't said I'm getting upset yet? Did you lose your 'little book of comebacks'

Enjoy your evening, I've got something a touch better to do

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I've never offered to do you any sort of favour, I've got some morals
 
I can only speak about Ethiopia back in February/March but I had flight in and 5 internal flights and everywhere had my temperature tested on arrival. They were looking for possible ebola/covid cases. Arrived back in UK in March and no temperature checks or anything and 6 months later arrived back from Italy and still no temperatures taken and no proof of recent negative test like most countries were then requiring as a minimum condition for entry. it's incredible we've allowed millions of ppl into the country without anything more than giving them advice then introduced self monitored quarantine from certain countries. Is it any wonder we've been so badly affected when it's never been taken that seriously by a government ill equipped to deal with it from the start.
 
You writing that about me or you? You haven't said I'm getting upset yet? Did you lose your 'little book of comebacks'

Enjoy your evening, I've got something a touch better to do

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I've never offered to do you any sort of favour, I've got some morals
I’ll find the condescending and ridiculous post when I have the time. You’re starting to amuse me know with your holier than though attacks. Then pretending to be the big man and saying I won’t engage. Shame you aren’t a man of your word and I have to live with your constant, relentless personal posts. If only we could believe you were the bigger man than I wouldn’t have to put up with all this being followed around
 
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I’ll find the condescending and ridiculous post when I have the time. You’re starting to amuse me know with your holier than though attacks. Then pretending to be the big man and saying I won’t engage. Shame you aren’t a man of your word and I have to live with your constant, relentless personal posts. If only we could believe you were the bigger man than I wouldn’t have to put up with all this being followed around
There's a couple like that on here, they seem to post in a very similar way too.
 
Deaths down weekending 11th December V previous week
And, the increase over the 5 year average gets lower - now down to just over 14%
 

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Deaths down weekending 11th December V previous week
And, the increase over the 5 year average gets lower - now down to just over 14%
The Tiers seemed to be working till then. The 7 day average dropped to a minimum 420 deaths a day on 11 December. Total reverse since unfortunately. Up to 500 deaths a day 12 days later.

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Deaths down weekending 11th December V previous week
And, the increase over the 5 year average gets lower - now down to just over 14%
Yeah they will be, as that's based on cases and data from when we were in lockdown, it will start going up again for the 4-5 week after that.

Give it a month, the cases now (and from Christmas) will take 14 days to die, then 14 days to appear on the ONS statistics.

Judging by our current 40k cases (and going up, rapidly), we're heading for a similar peak to the first wave, except this one will be longer. More of those will be replacing flu deaths than in April, but excess will get to +50% I think.
 
I don't think so, I think it's more that it's early in the second wave and most of those at the bottom learned their lesson. Those on the opposite end of the scale, towards the top, got complacent.

Not related to your post but, the best examples on there are those in the middle, Germany, Norway, Finland, Denmark, all consistently good.
Some of those at the bottom also have a bit of an excuse, like Italy and Spain, as they were hit early and very hard, so they had the harder fight being caught more off guard.

See there's a couple at the bottom doing really bad, us and Sweden, to name two.
There's no excuse for the UK to have got hit harder, and and then go hit hard again, and our cases are going through the roof now, deaths are going to be sky high in January and take ages to recover from.
Same with Sweden, a massive **** up at the start, and then the arrogance of their leaders and Tegnell is really going to make them pay the ultimate price. Their deaths chart isn't accurate unless looking at dates two weeks ago, due to how slow they report, but two weeks ago their deaths per day were nearing their previous peak. These deaths were based on case from early December, since then cases have gone up by about 50%, and are still going up. Their deaths will likely do the same.

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Come on... @Alvez_48 was telling me that the Sweden model was the one that should be followed as their results have been amazing!! Surely he can't be wrong??
 
New tiers stared around 4th December

4th and 11th saw deaths decline v 5 year average
 
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Is it just me at is their partial evidence there for herd immunity? Those countries hit hardest in wave 1, whilst still suffering, seem to be seeing less deaths so far. The countries that were ok in wave 1 are struggling worse

Is this also because we have killed off 50,000 of our most vulnerable first time round, coupled with better treatments mean the death rate is lower?
 
Serious if almost certainly offensive question: how has Africa done so well? I can understand Asia. Advanced nations that can put high tech track and trace systems in place and have a generally more complaint population to control. Africa though, poorer infrastructure and hospitals.
Possible correlation with widespread Ivermectin use?

As the study on the link below says:
Prophylactic use of ivermectin against parasitic infections is most common in Africa and we hence show that the reported correlation is highly significant both when compared among African nations as well as in a worldwide context.

COVID-19 prophylaxis? Lower incidence associated with prophylactic administration of ivermectin
 
New tiers stared around 4th December

4th and 11th saw deaths decline v 5 year average
Yeah, and? Like I said, the low point (which is still 14% above average) is a welcome consiquence of lockdown. The dec 4th lifting will start to appear from about the 18th onwards. Nov 1 to Nov 30 cases don’t die until Nov 14 to Dec 14 (in general).
 
Come on... @Alvez_48 was telling me that the Sweden model was the one that should be followed as their results have been amazing!! Surely he can't be wrong??
Yeah, a few of them declared the Sweden pandemic over in Summer. Apparently they had herd immunity! They must be embarrassed about those comments, but likely won’t acknowledge they made them.
I would insert a laughing emoji, at how ludicrous some(all) of their comments where, but it’s no laughing matter. People thinking wrongly has cost thousands of lives.

Their pandemic isn’t over, not by a long shot, they recently had a day with nearly 10,000 cases, which is pretty much like us having 70,000 cases 😮 Their cases still seem to be climbing, quickly, and they’ve not even had much/any of the new strain, as far as I’m aware. Hopefully they can avoid that and get the vaccine rolled out first.

Good to see their PM is changing tact now though. They’ve locked down some areas, shut schools, limited alcohol sales, are advising masks, and been about as restrictive as they can get, with the way the country is ran. I think they can only “advise” the public what to do, and trust the good nature of the good Swedish people will be enough (but it doesn’t seem to be). All of this is months too late mind, had they acted similar to Norway, Finland and even Denmark, they would likely be 5-10x better off.
 
Just saw a snippet stating that the "Central American Nation of Belize Authorizes Use of Ivermectin for COVID-19" that was from 30 Dec 2020
 
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