FMTTM Solidarity thread

NoloBoro

NoloBoro

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Boro'd Time said:
Speak for yourself. The public sector has better pay, better hours, better pension, better job security than the private sector. When the private sector workers lost their jobs or a significant chunk of pay over Covid, the public sector were protected. It's time to get the country moving again, and bad actors that would rather see the country fall to ruin to further line their pockets have no place in it (and yes, I include the Tories in that and not just the strikers).
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The public sector were protected in the most part because they carry out essential work.
 
Uwefuchs

Uwefuchs

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I've been striking since last June (Rail) and to be honest we need to start doing something differently now to make a point.

As they've shown with the rail strikes, the Tories are happy to let things continue and waste tax payers money to cover the private firms losses.

A couple of strike days here and there won't change anything and public sector workers can't keep losing money, its not sustainable.

In my opinion the only solution is to have mass demonstrations in the streets and that needs everyone who supports this to come out and support it. A few thousand union members in the streets isn't enough, it needs a couple of million protesting through London to make a point.

If this isn't brought to a head soon it'll fizzle out and I think the public sector needs help from the rest of the general public. I said a couple of days ago, its easy to sit on the sidelines watching and thinking this won't affect you, this is about the rights of workers being attacked and it will be you next.
 
SmallTown

SmallTown

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Uwefuchs said:
I've been striking since last June (Rail) and to be honest we need to start doing something differently now to make a point.

As they've shown with the rail strikes, the Tories are happy to let things continue and waste tax payers money to cover the private firms losses.

A couple of strike days here and there won't change anything and public sector workers can't keep losing money, its not sustainable.

In my opinion the only solution is to have mass demonstrations in the streets and that needs everyone who supports this to come out and support it. A few thousand union members in the streets isn't enough, it needs a couple of million protesting through London to make a point.

If this isn't brought to a head soon it'll fizzle out and I think the public sector needs help from the rest of the general public. I said a couple of days ago, its easy to sit on the sidelines watching and thinking this won't affect you, this is about the rights of workers being attacked and it will be you next.
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Good points, it seems like we will need to organise a co-ordinated "general" strike to get the message across.
 
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exiledinboro

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Uwefuchs said:
I've been striking since last June (Rail) and to be honest we need to start doing something differently now to make a point.

As they've shown with the rail strikes, the Tories are happy to let things continue and waste tax payers money to cover the private firms losses.

A couple of strike days here and there won't change anything and public sector workers can't keep losing money, its not sustainable.

In my opinion the only solution is to have mass demonstrations in the streets and that needs everyone who supports this to come out and support it. A few thousand union members in the streets isn't enough, it needs a couple of million protesting through London to make a point.

If this isn't brought to a head soon it'll fizzle out and I think the public sector needs help from the rest of the general public. I said a couple of days ago, its easy to sit on the sidelines watching and thinking this won't affect you, this is about the rights of workers being attacked and it will be you next.
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Hopefully if the weather picks up people will demonstrate. Sunak is truly hated by most of this country

I would be happy to go down to the town hall in Middlesbrough to support workers and protest against the Tories
 
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SmallTown

SmallTown

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Randy said:
Right. Ok.
So how do those of us who work in the private sector go on strike without been sacked?
It's 'easier' for public sector workers to go on strike with the protections they have from unions etc.
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Are you part of a union? Join one

If not, that's fine, you don't want to campaign for workers rights (despite being a worker) you crack on. But you can't complain if your employer treats you badly
 
gregorgregorovich

gregorgregorovich

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SmallTown said:
Are you part of a union? Join one

If not, that's fine, you don't want to campaign for workers rights (despite being a worker) you crack on. But you can't complain if your employer treats you badly
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To be fair to Randy, I don't think he's said he wouldn't campaign for workers rights. It is more difficult for private sector workers employed by small companies to take Industrial action. Not impossible, but definitely more difficult.
 
Randy

Randy

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SmallTown said:
Are you part of a union? Join one

If not, that's fine, you don't want to campaign for workers rights (despite being a worker) you crack on. But you can't complain if your employer treats you badly
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There is no hospitality union.

I'm asking you a simple question. How do those who work in the private sector go on general strike (your idea) without union support and protections?

Also your suggestion that I can't complain should my employer ever treat me badly (they haven't) because I don't want to go on a general strike as I have bills to pay is bonkers.
 
gregorgregorovich

gregorgregorovich

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Randy said:
There is no hospitality union.

I'm asking you a simple question. How do those who work in the private sector go on general strike (your idea) without union support and protections?

Also your suggestion that I can't complain should my employer ever treat me badly (they haven't) because I don't want to go on a general strike as I have bills to pay is bonkers.
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There are Unions for Hospitality workers, the old USDAW for one. I believe Unite also have some hospitality workers as members.
 
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exiledinboro

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Randy you’re not in a dispute with your employer which the strikers are therefore it makes no sense for you to join a union with the specific aim of organising a strike with other workers in your profession in order to fight a battle for workers in a different profession who are currently striking and which you are not one of them

To put another way you don’t join a union of say chefs to strike for the rights of teachers or railway workers and anyone telling you to join a union with that aim is stupid

Ignore everything you have been told on this page and if you want to show solidarity you should do it outside of your workplace if that’s what happens nationally in organised protests

If and it’s a big if that the whole country refuses to go to work then you can reevaluate if you should take time off work. At the moment we’re a long way of that so it’s not worth considering
 
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SmallTown

SmallTown

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Randy said:
There is no hospitality union.

I'm asking you a simple question. How do those who work in the private sector go on general strike (your idea) without union support and protections?

Also your suggestion that I can't complain should my employer ever treat me badly (they haven't) because I don't want to go on a general strike as I have bills to pay is bonkers.
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It isn't really. You are either for protecting worker rights or against it. You're against it. Fine
 
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