Absolutely bang on.
One of the best sayings in fitness/weight loss
"You can't out-train a bad diet"
Fitness plans to lose 3 stone.
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One of the best sayings in fitness/weight loss
"You can't out-train a bad diet"
One other bit of advice I've found through experience.
It's the things you find the hardest that usually are the most effective.
Those burpees, that 10 minute flat out session on the rower, the jumping squats, the single leg squats, pull ups, push ups..... all the things you can't do........ work hard and get fit so you CAN do them. You'll see the change in weeks not months.
It's the things you find the hardest that usually are the most effective.
Those burpees, that 10 minute flat out session on the rower, the jumping squats, the single leg squats, pull ups, push ups..... all the things you can't do........ work hard and get fit so you CAN do them. You'll see the change in weeks not months.
MolteniArcore
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Yeah, I didn't realise how wildy things can be off, and have probably over ate on my training days. I now try not to go too nuts after a massive ride, and want to lock in that calorie deficit.
I'm like 10% zone 2, 50% zone 3 and 40% zone 4, over two hours, then I fall over when I get homeZone 2isn't carb/ glycogen heavy, but you've got there by being fit, for me to probably go the same pace as you would likely mean I'm in Zone 3/4 I expect. My FTP is like 180, or it was, should hopefully get that over 200 after summer though and maybe 250 next year.
Well done on getting into Cat B, seriously good going even getting there, you're way ahead of me!
I still haven't got over the "need to ride at 110% everywhere" but I actually like battering myself, I'm weird.
My FTP is 321. I'm a heavy lad though still, Im 94kg. My power numbers shot up pretty fast last year racing ZRL. I was a D racing in B, got shunted up to C and then lost 2 stone. I found myself winning Cat C TT's and finishing consistently in the top 10 in Cat C races but then I got promoted to B in a TTT and I'be been stuck in 50-59th in those races.
I wouldn't say I'm a fit lad. I can put power down for an hour but I struggle over the longer distances with bigger elevation due to my weight. I'd like another stone off and it should make my riding a bit easier.
Apart from Zwift I have done quite a few big climbs in Yorkshire - that's pretty good for the training!
You should try and Z2 it everywhere - it seems counterintuitive but I think that is what's helped my power increase. When you are always knackered you can't put the big numbers down. I look at pros - they rarely go full gas when training, they just ride miles at low intensity. They will do a little high intensity work (sprints / intervals etc) but the majority is low/medium intensity. There must be something in it!!
MolteniArcore
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I have done since the pubs reopened! It is taking an average of 160 odd miles a week though
but you are right.
Andy_W
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Jesus, 321
Yeah, you're about 10kg more than me, but still a long way ahead!You will still be much fitter than most, 3.4 W/kg is going to be better than the average guy on 1.5-2 W/kg, but yeah a stone off will really up your W/kg, go for it.
I was doing an FTP builder on Zwift, but it got boring, and then the weather got better. I don't think I suit structured training, I get that it's a lot of Z2 and that's the way to cram in the miles over the week, with little fatigue, but for me I could get the same gains doing zone 3/4, but less sessions (albeit with more pain), I find that more fun/ interesting, albeit it's not the most efficient.
I used to run marathons and always trained hard. then I jpoined a running club when working away and got into fartlek and lighter training. The next half I did after that I knocked a full 7 mins off my PB! So I agree
Andy_W
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It deffo works, and works really well, but I just don't like doing it, if on my bike or running. It seems more like a chore/ training to me, rather than actually enjoying what I'm doing, so If I do that way it will be great gains for a month but then I just stop altogether (as I'm sick of it). Doing it the way I like, I basically train every month, and actually enjoy it, whilst getting better (albeit at a slower rate), and don't give up.I used to run marathons and always trained hard. then I jpoined a running club when working away and got into fartlek and lighter training. The next half I did after that I knocked a full 7 mins off my PB! So I agree
I find it the other way around for Football though, I enjoy playing 11 a-side more, which is a bit like interval training I suppose, a lot more than the relentless grind of 5-a side, which gets boring.