First case in Middlesbrough confirmed

To be honest its must sinking in how bad this is this coukd be the worst economic site ever as well.

Look at these figures, it seems hard to think we could be were Italy are in 2 weeks Screenshot_20200320-221205_Facebook.jpg
 
Yeah, heavy industry left a lot of the older population with respiratory issues and that is a massive concern - lockdown, distancing is fine but also being responsive to their needs for shopping and any issues they are experiencing. Just being proactive and sensible is the only way to keep them safe.

This is a godamn nightmare but we have to try to help those who cannot help themselves.
 
"It would wipe alot out in our towns if it became common here"

Without wishing to diminish the severity, I don't think it would do that. This is not H5N1 with a 33% mortality rate.

80% of cases have mild to moderate symptoms (some have none at all). 20% need hospitalisation - hence the governments attempt to manage the NHS load. But the actual mortality rate is around 1%. I imagine that the availability of ventilators for the really sick has an impact.

Either way, when you see a death, it probably means 100 times more people are actually infected. The really critical issue is the rate of infection. It can take 20 days from infection to death, so you can estimate that 20 days ago (or so) around 17,000 people were infected. By now the number will be four times that.

Managing the rate of infections impacts the NHS, hence the restrictions slowly being introduced, with the intent of protecting the majority of non-vulnerable while allowing non-vulnerable to gain immunity.

But isolating the vulnerable is the best way to reduce the mortality. If that can be achieved at some level of effectiveness, within 12 weeks you could see most of the population with immunity, and the vulnerable could be invited back into society. The best thing for everyone is to encourage the elderly and vulnerable (and that means anyone from 30 up with heart of respiratory issues, and those with inflammatory diseases like lupus and juvenile arthritis) to isolate themselves fully. They could need our help to do so. I'd actually bring in laws to enforce isolation for the sake of the younger sufferers.

If the plan works by August the UK could be back to normal, with some restrictions on inbound travelers. If it works. If it doesn't you could be looking at scenes like in Italy. Lets hope isolating the vulnerable combined with controlling the spread actually works.
 
Might be more than they are saying. Was told by someone who works in James Cook that they had a guy admitted with chest infection who deteriorated rapidly over next 24 hours. He was in a ward with others and nurses thought he should have been tested for Coronavirus. Doctor said not required as he only had pneumonia which he eventually passed away with. Probably not recorded as a virus linked death but nobody would know without testing.
 
Im in hospital in Egypt, I tested positive last week. Im currently awsiting my first swab for a negative result, then I do a second swab. Two negatives and I can go.
I wouldn’t wish my experience upon anyone.
Can you give us a new thread about your experiences Jonny when you feel up to it?

I think it would help a lot to hear first hand how it affected you.
 
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