Fascist plan to jail lawyers

[JackG]

If Labour (or left figures) push any narrative of this being ridiculous then the Tories get what they want.

If Labour don't say anything then this will be pushed up the agenda as something the Tories see Labour not wanting to touch.

Therefore Labour need to go in quick and hard with absolute support for any measures that reduce criminality and illegal immigration (it doesn't matter what the existing law is, that's not the point). Pushing it back at the Tories as them not doing enough is even better as it nips it in the bud and removes it as a weapon come election time.

“Never wrestle with pigs. You both get dirty and the pig likes it.”​

― George Bernard Shaw

I'm worried they've got someone lined up who will implicate a Labour figure

 

[Trug]

Are you talking about England and Wales?

If so can you point to some examples as I am very interested in this?

Hi Angus- some years ago I was assaulted and suffered facial injuries. The solicitor asked me the extent of my injuries and then asked questions such as, "Do you find that people are looking at you because of your appearance"
" Do you suffer from lack of confidence in yourself now"
" Are you wary of going out alone"
"Do you have flashbacks or nightmares"
"Are you frightened to go to sleep"
"Are you nervous when you see a crowd of people"

This is information that I personally would not have giving out simply because I would not have thought of it.
As it happened, I did not need to appear in court as the person admitted everything.
I believe the information I gave was used to claim compensation/damages .

 

[Laughing]

If a lawyers client lies the lawyer is under an obligation to keep it to himself
If a lawyer knows that his client is lying, then he can tell the client that he cannot act for him unless he tells the truth. If the client refuses, then the solicitor must inform the judge that his client intends to commit perjury.
A prosecutor can also coach all he wants, e.g, by exagerating costs, expense, how the crime has affected them etc,

The part about a client lying only applies if he gives evidence. If the lawyer allows this to happen he is subourning perjury and breaking the law himself.

You can be guilty, tell your lawyer, and he can still defend you without breaking any laws. Take for example an illegal search. A lawyer can get the case thrown out based on the illegal search.

The lawyers job is to defend his client to the best of his ability and make sure that the judiciary meet their burden of proof. Guilt or innocence doesn't have much to do with it. It only matters what the prosecution can prove, beyond.

A prosecutor in the UK cannot coach a witness, it is against the law.

 

[Angus]

Hi Angus- some years ago I was assaulted and suffered facial injuries. The solicitor asked me the extent of my injuries and then asked questions such as, "Do you find that people are looking at you because of your appearance"
" Do you suffer from lack of confidence in yourself now"
" Are you wary of going out alone"
"Do you have flashbacks or nightmares"
"Are you frightened to go to sleep"
"Are you nervous when you see a crowd of people"

This is information that I personally would not have giving out simply because I would not have thought of it.
As it happened, I did not need to appear in court as the person admitted everything.
I believe the information I gave was used to claim compensation/damages .

Hi Trug. Sorry to hear that you got assaulted hopefully you made a full recovery and you are over it now.

Sounds like your lawyer helped to pursue a compensation claim. I hope you were able to get the justice you deserved.