Everton fans gutted surely at appointment ?

Think it’s an outstanding appointment. Dyche is far more sophisticated than many give him credit for. You can’t be as successful as Dyche was with Burnley, for as long as he was with them, if you are tactically inflexible and only play a single way. You get found out, see a certain former nameless Boro manager for details 😉.

I fancy they’ll survive easily now.
 
They'll want to stay up - and he was the obvious candidate to give them a chance
As an aside Tarkowski Keane and McNeill will be players he knows....
I think Coady will be his type of player too - but they have big problems at the other end of the pitch
 
Hope none of the players are "posh" or, you know, have mothers 😉

I'm not so sure it's as much a guarantee of safety as people think it is. Will be interesting to see. I don't think he's daft, but I do think his tactics are dated. Suppose we'll find out how dated soon.

Probably helps having a couple of former players there mind. They'll be key.
 
Everton fans have never been bothered about nice footy, they want an in your face, aggressive side. Seems like he will suit them to be honest.

They loved Moyes and when Martinez tried to be more progressive and had Stones playing out from the back they hated it.
 
Fair point. Let me clear this up once and for all.

I was referring to the previous manager who refused to name the previous manager.

Rhymes with Swiss Milder.
 
it's a bit of an extreme reaction isn't it? I'd say the chances are that he'll steady the ship. It won't be pretty, but he kept Burnley up for a few years so can very much do it with Everton
Suppose I’m probably saying that I’d be gutted with SD…given his style of play. Probably what Everton need but good luck trying to score under SD
 
Everton fans have never been bothered about nice footy, they want an in your face, aggressive side. Seems like he will suit them to be honest.

They loved Moyes and when Martinez tried to be more progressive and had Stones playing out from the back they hated it.
They hated Allardyce TBF. And he actually did ok results wise.
 
They hated Allardyce TBF. And he actually did ok results wise.
Precisely, they don’t know what they want because big Sam would’ve given them a lot more than SD. But, let’s see, my popcorn 🍿 is out…..
Great entertainment, thanks very much.
I’m interested to see if what SD did at Burnley can be replicated at a very different club like Everton.
I suspect not because I don’t rate him but we’ll see soon enough…..
 
They hated Allardyce TBF. And he actually did ok results wise.
The problem with Allardyce is that he's not likeable. I always think a lot is down to perception as much as facts with football fans. For all some on here don't like Dyche, he's actually quite an amusing guy and will show a bit of passion. That may offset concerns over style for a while.
 
The problem with Allardyce is that he's not likeable. I always think a lot is down to perception as much as facts with football fans. For all some on here don't like Dyche, he's actually quite an amusing guy and will show a bit of passion. That may offset concerns over style for a while.
Sam allardyce is a good manager. His Bolton team adopted sports science very well at the time compared to others and they had plenty of flair players
 
Sam allardyce is a good manager. His Bolton team adopted sports science very well at the time compared to others and they had plenty of flair players
One of the first to use opta stats too I think.

Lad I went to uni with worked as part of his backroom staff and all he did was stats for him. He was in the dugout on match days, so think Allardyce was using them in real time too.

Did the same degree as me and ended up as head of scouting/recruitment at Man City, then Liverpool. Where did it all go wrong 😂
 
Dreadful manager. Last of the dinosaurs with a brand of gravy for breakfast razorblade football.
 
I actually think its the perfect appointment. Their recent managers are a complete clash of styles and they have a squad made up of players signed by 4/5 different managers. Lampard wants to play the beautiful game with players not capable. Dyche will do what is needed now to survive and if he makes them hard to beat and with money available he could get them at the right end of the table. Question is, how will Dyche manage with a big budget.

The Everton fans have been spoilt/hoodwinked without any substance since this takeover. As a big club with a big history and large fan base they see themselves as club that should be competing with the top clubs and that it will just happen. As soon as they got taken over the belief was this will now happen and we will do what Chelsea did or what Man City did because we are as big or bigger than they where when they started their journey - maybe not with as much success due to the money around the top clubs today or with as much cash but certainly shoot them up the top end of the table.

They then started having managers who where sought after up and coming managers of the future (Koeman/Silva) or linked with those drowning in success (Ancelotti). Again the fans assumed this along with the takeover guaranteed success.

The reality is, the owners are actually clueless about football and threw money here, their and everywhere. They thought signing benched players at clubs like arsenal and Man Utd etc would see them become better but the reality is they signed mid to lower half level players and that's exactly where they are in a battle with the whole bottom 10 teams for survival.

Its all well and good having these rich owners come in who are willing to spend but Everton and recently Chelsea are showing how not to do it and it goes much further than unlimited spending. The club needs a structure and a plan beyond the first time - it needs start at youth level and right through, same for the backroom staff and the plan needs to be short term and long term for it to succeed. Man City are a prime example and Newcastle and doing it right now.

Everton have the foundations as do many clubs but these owners will not be a success until the bring football people in and they just merely provide the cash.
 
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