A few thingsSorry mate but you said on here around the time of 5p cut that prices might not drop because retailers had already purchased their fuel and they paid for that delivery and the associated cost. Once it’s in the forecourt why does the price need to go up surely the filling station has paid whatever they need to pay for that fuel and the wholesale price change shouldn’t have any impact on fuel already purchased. I suppose they could be softening the blow and bringing in incremental price rises so that there isn’t a big hit when the wholesale price increase hits the next delivery???
I get why you’re being protective of the industry because it sounds like I’m lumping all petrol retailers together but I can only go on my experience of the filling station near me and maybe I’m missing the something.
I don't, as it isn't.I think you mean least expensive.
Daft question I know but are you sure you're not still on a fixed tariff from before the prices went up massively?I live in a 3 bed terrace atm and I've spent £250 on electric all year, I can't understand why bills are so high elsewhere. Gas useage will go up over the winter but again at the moment it's a minimum amount every month. I don't think my yearly bill will exceed £850.
Your standing charges will be the best part of £300 for the year, hard to believe you’re only going to spend fifty quid a month on the actual energy useI live in a 3 bed terrace atm and I've spent £250 on electric all year, I can't understand why bills are so high elsewhere. Gas useage will go up over the winter but again at the moment it's a minimum amount every month. I don't think my yearly bill will exceed £850.
Thanks Finny, this is my final point I promise. If my local ‘quiet filling station’ gets a delivery twice a week, one on a Monday and one on a Thursday, then in theory there should be no reason for them to put their prices up on a Tuesday or Wednesday other than as you say because the filling station nearby has put their prices up (which may be because they had a delivery and had fuel delivered at a higher cost)?
I completely understand why they do it and when margins are so tight why would you not stick an extra penny per litre on the price if the petrol station up the road has, I might not agree with it but it is business.
Again I am not saying all retailers are doing it far from it and really do not want to distract from the amount of duty and tax the government take to inflate the price, however as a principled person I see what my local filling station is doing as wrong (did similar during the 5hit show that was the media led fuel shortage last year) and as such will not use them.
I don’t think I’m ever going to convince you that this is taking place as you are also a man of principal and as you work in the industry you know far more about it than I do and as you have pointed out all this disagreeing does is allow the government to be let off the hook, which is the last thing I want to do!!!
You don't know when they pay for their deliveries, when they're billed or when the price is set etc. It's likely they just bill in line with a current price, or price relative to the local area. Or they get invoiced a week later and the invoiced price is based on what the price it is then, so they have to cover themselves.Thanks Finny, this is my final point I promise. If my local ‘quiet filling station’ gets a delivery twice a week, one on a Monday and one on a Thursday, then in theory there should be no reason for them to put their prices up on a Tuesday or Wednesday other than as you say because the filling station nearby has put their prices up (which may be because they had a delivery and had fuel delivered at a higher cost)?
I completely understand why they do it and when margins are so tight why would you not stick an extra penny per litre on the price if the petrol station up the road has, I might not agree with it but it is business.
Again I am not saying all retailers are doing it far from it and really do not want to distract from the amount of duty and tax the government take to inflate the price, however as a principled person I see what my local filling station is doing as wrong (did similar during the 5hit show that was the media led fuel shortage last year) and as such will not use them.
I don’t think I’m ever going to convince you that this is taking place as you are also a man of principal and as you work in the industry you know far more about it than I do and as you have pointed out all this disagreeing does is allow the government to be let off the hook, which is the last thing I want to do!!!
No not for quite a few years now.Are they offering £5 off when you spend £50 in the supermarket? I know they used to but I'm an Aldi convert now.
I know it's not free, you said it was the most expensive. Which it isn't.I don't, as it isn't.
It's a common misconception that it's free energy, but the building of the nuclear plants, running them and then decommissioning of them is far from free, especially doing it in a responsible manner. It is steady/ guaranteed and would enable us to be self sufficient though, and a lot of the "cost" goes back into the system (like I said).
It's more expensive to produce than Gas, Oil, Solar, Wind etc, if it's more expensive to produce, then it's going to end up as more on peoples bills.I know it's not free, you said it was the most expensive. Which it isn't.
Hinckley point is expensive, mainly because the UK gov likes to regulate everything to within an inch of its life.It's more expensive to produce than Gas, Oil, Solar, Wind etc, if it's more expensive to produce, then it's going to end up as more on peoples bills.
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We're not in France or Germany though, and they're less likely to be exporting more to us, when the cost of their cheaper energy has gone up. We're also paying them based on rates for older/ less complex/ cheaper reactors, if they built them now (like we would have to), the rates would go up. Obviously France and Germany won't be up for building reactors there, so they can make up the deficit of what we have if we lose gas. It's more likely we will find ourselves cut off from the ~5% they supply.Hinckley point is expensive, mainly because the UK gov likes to regulate everything to within an inch of its life.
However France sells us its nuclear power for about 45eur per MWh. Germany has just shut down plants that were generating for less than 30eur per MWh
Absolutely the biggest waste is heat through poor insulation. There should be more legislation to make homes greener.Solar fitted today, I've used £0.00 energy in the last 4 hours. All new houses should be built with solar and ground/air source heat pumps. apart from the obvious green impact, it'll drive demand for other energy sources down, and combat the growing costs for everyone that doesn't have solar.
that would mean making legislation that undermines the build them quick and low quality of the house building companies, and the tories won't do that while they are receiving money of some of the bigger onesIts the
Absolutely the biggest waste is heat through poor insulation. There should be more legislation to make homes greener.
When you moved into your house was there an unexplained wire running from your house to a nearby lamppost?I live in a 3 bed terrace atm and I've spent £250 on electric all year, I can't understand why bills are so high elsewhere. Gas useage will go up over the winter but again at the moment it's a minimum amount every month. I don't think my yearly bill will exceed £850.