Drug deaths at Newcastle Uni

JustTheGent

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Shocking story. Got to be honest, know nothing about these substances but surely you wouldn't expect people to start dropping down dead. Think there was a case in Northallerton not so long ago as well. I know drugs are supposed to be rife but I've never really known anyone involved with them apart from the odd person who likes cannabis. The closest I get to it is walking out of Gare Du Nord station, there's someone there like clockwork asking if I want to buy some merch.

 
As someone who studied in Newcastle, albeit a fair few years ago, I know a lot of the halls mentioned in that article, it 's a horrible event. Drugs are rife around student campuses, and they always will be, as young people move away from home for the first time and can truly experience life as an adult for the first time.

The difference between when I was a student and now, is the purity which seems a lot higher than when I was 18/19, back then the worry was what things had been cut with. funnily, most people I know from Boro who used to take them at Retro/Sugarshack etc actually went the other way when they got to Uni in Newcastle and toned it down / quit. The same can't be said for those that went to Leeds.
 
It was reported on the NE news a few weeks ago, that especially during freshers week, flyers were slid under the doors in halls at both Uni's in Newcastle with details of Insta pages they could go to for what is basically a 'dial-a-drug' 24 hour service
 
You're right. People dont drop down dead from those substances. As it mentions in the article, the young girl had taken both ketamine and fentanyl previously in a medical setting.

But governments response will probably be to make them more illegal or something.

Very silly
 
Shocking story. Got to be honest, know nothing about these substances but surely you wouldn't expect people to start dropping down dead. Think there was a case in Northallerton not so long ago as well. I know drugs are supposed to be rife but I've never really known anyone involved with them apart from the odd person who likes cannabis. The closest I get to it is walking out of Gare Du Nord station, there's someone there like clockwork asking if I want to buy some merch.

I think unfortunately you should expect people to die. It happens depressingy regularly, there's no control on what dealers are dishing out. Unfortunatley a combination of young people not evaluating risk, and pier pressure etc makes them a lot more suseptible. I was at Newcastle uni 20 or so years ago. I'm sure drugs were probably prevelant then, but i didn't see it. I guess You either have to go looking for it or be in social circles where people use it.
 
It’s awful news. Imagine dropping your kid off at Uni only to have to go back a few days later to identify the body.



Things have changed a bit since I was there.
Started late 70’s as a naive lad from Boro.
Met some public school lads and after a week or so we were in one of their rooms after a pub visit and one of them pulled out a bag of weed.


I shat myself and made a hasty escape to my room.
 
Lots of people drop down dead taking prescribed drugs and have any amount of side effects, , so the illegal drugs have as many if not more danger of death and side effects, not only what is cut in with them.

All drugs are a bad idea and not normal under any circumstance, only those that you need to take in order to live day by day.

The romance of its rock n roll cool to do them no longer applies , its has the tag of scruffy dirty and weak problem person to do siht like that anymore.

I do agree that users should now be classed with a mental illness decriminalised and receive help, its not like youre just have a social swift half or a couple of pints when doing drugs is it ?, its like a plonky with the drink you need to do them full on effect.

Kids are very vulnerable at Uni, the same with drink, it will keep happening till there is more mental health help.
 
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All drugs are a bad idea and not normal under any circumstance, only those that you need to take in order to live day by day.
You do know that people have been taking drugs for thousands of years and we've only been trying to prevent it for about a hundred years or so.
I do agree that users should now be classed with a mental illness decriminalised and receive help, its like you just have a social swift half or a couple of pints when doing drugs is it ?, its like a plonky with the drink you need to do them full on effect.
Good luck in getting a government of any hue to class all drinkers as mentally ill and in need of treatment. And yes, you can do small amounts of some drugs for milder effects.
 
You do know that people have been taking drugs for thousands of years and we've only been trying to prevent it for about a hundred years or so.

Good luck in getting a government of any hue to class all drinkers as mentally ill and in need of treatment. And yes, you can do small amounts of some drugs for milder effects.
You can always tell when it goes from being a social few drinks to becoming a problem to all around. They should warrant a spell of mental health help before they impact on everybody elses life and circumstances.
There should be help given when its ruining everything about and around them.

My old fella said the was opium dens in Cannon park area in the 40s 50s and they were crazy people.
I've always thought drugs use was given a creative rock n roll tag in the 60s & 70s and the 27 club as if it was cool etc , but now it has much credit and appeal of a social pariah. When you see spice freaks, bag and crack heads, vacant faced cannabis users hanging around town centres is all very very sad.

The pubs have given way to supermarket plonkies.
 
You seem to have a blind spot for alcohol when you talk of a -
social few drinks
But in your first contribution to the thread, when you say -
All drugs are a bad idea and not normal under any circumstance, only those that you need to take in order to live day by day.
you aren't including alcohol are you?

It is important to realise that alcohol is one of the most addictive and damaging drugs known to man but that the way it is regulated and controlled makes it far, far safer than during prohibition. Not to mention the explosion in organised crime that prohibition was directly responsible for.
 
You seem to have a blind spot for alcohol when you talk of a -

But in your first contribution to the thread, when you say -

you aren't including alcohol are you?

It is important to realise that alcohol is one of the most addictive and damaging drugs known to man but that the way it is regulated and controlled makes it far, far safer than during prohibition. Not to mention the explosion in organised crime that prohibition was directly responsible for.
I think alcohol brings just as many problems if not more, I did mention it in my first post.

Prescribed drugs are the scourge of the USA, these are monitored and given out by GPs and are ruining whole community's, no such thing as a safe drug is there ? Thing is they will never be free there will always be the prescription cost manufacturing etc.
It will be interesting to see how the states that have decriminalised small quantities of all drugs found on a person go on.
I was also reading the Californian cannabis farms having to arm themselves up to the teeth as they have had places raided by drug gangs and killed seven workers in one instance.
 
I think alcohol brings just as many problems if not more, I did mention it in my first post.

Prescribed drugs are the scourge of the USA, these are monitored and given out by GPs and are ruining whole community's, no such thing as a safe drug is there ? Thing is they will never be free there will always be the prescription cost manufacturing etc.
It will be interesting to see how the states that have decriminalised small quantities of all drugs found on a person go on.
I was also reading the Californian cannabis farms having to arm themselves up to the teeth as they have had places raided by drug gangs and killed seven workers in one instance.
The problem with the US is that whilst a few states have legalised cannabis use and production completely, it remains prohibited in most of the country which creates the possibility of raiding a farm of huge amounts of professionally grown weed and transporting it elsewhere to be sold on the illegal market. A better example may be Canada, where cannabis cultivation and use has been legalised across the whole country.
 
When I was at Newcastle back in early 2000's it was the medics students that were definitely the most hardcore, especially in first year. They had their own bar and other perks at the student union.
 
You can always tell when it goes from being a social few drinks to becoming a problem to all around. They should warrant a spell of mental health help before they impact on everybody elses life and circumstances.
There should be help given when its ruining everything about and around them.

My old fella said the was opium dens in Cannon park area in the 40s 50s and they were crazy people.
I've always thought drugs use was given a creative rock n roll tag in the 60s & 70s and the 27 club as if it was cool etc , but now it has much credit and appeal of a social pariah. When you see spice freaks, bag and crack heads, vacant faced cannabis users hanging around town centres is all very very sad.

The pubs have given way to supermarket plonkies.

What about the high performing heroin addicts you don't notice because they're not what you expect them to look like.

Don't confuse drug (or drink) addiction with destitute beggars on the street, there's plenty of high performing addicts out there.
 
What about the high performing heroin addicts you don't notice because they're not what you expect.

Don't confuse drug (or drink) addiction with destitute beggars on the street, there's plenty of high performing addicts out there.
Exactly, up until 1971 when we joined the drug war, pharmaceutical grade heroin was prescribed and addicts were invisible. It's the junk that goes into heroin that causes the majority of the problems. A bit like bathtub gin during prohibition.
 
What about the high performing heroin addicts you don't notice because they're not what you expect them to look like.

Don't confuse drug (or drink) addiction with destitute beggars on the street, there's plenty of high performing addicts out there.
I`ll hold my hands up to that, Ive never met a high perfoming one ever. Ive only met low performing ones, Ihave known more than a dozen and two well that died a sorry state as I did help out at one stage. I did one very talented user who used for over 22 years, he managed through it until he was involved in a very bad accident, hes now clean for 2 years.
 
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