Depp court case against the Sun

Have you looked at the reported evidence?

Some, not all. I don’t think either of them look great to be honest. I wouldn’t say Depp is coming across as some nice guy though. I believe it’s more wanting to The Sun to lose than feeling Depp has been hard done by. I did ask if the judge finds if favour in the The Sun would you accept he is then guilty of domestic abuse?
 
Some, not all. I don’t think either of them look great to be honest. I wouldn’t say Depp is coming across as some nice guy though. I believe it’s more wanting to The Sun to lose than feeling Depp has been hard done by. I did ask if the judge finds if favour in the The Sun would you accept he is then guilty of domestic abuse?

Yes.
 
My comment wasn’t aimed aimed at you as such the more ones labelling her a psycho, depp comes across a nice guy. She might be a psycho. She might also be telling the truth or some element of it. With domestic abuse I think it’s very dangerous and does the cause no good by dismissing claims out of hand. And if the judge the rules in The Suns favour the above posters aren’t gonna look to canny
 
My comment wasn’t aimed aimed at you as such the more ones labelling her a psycho, depp comes across a nice guy. She might be a psycho. She might also be telling the truth or some element of it. With domestic abuse I think it’s very dangerous and does the cause no good by dismissing claims out of hand. And if the judge the rules in The Suns favour the above posters aren’t gonna look to canny

I labelled her a psycho. She could have been the victim of domestic violence as well as a perpetrator. She seems to have been found telling a fair few whoppers though.
 
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I labelled her a psycho. She could have been the victim of domestic violence as well as a perpetrator. She seems to have been found telling a fair few whoppers though.

Ha, I didn’t notice it was you to be fair. I think your treading on egg shells with this one. I just think it’s dangerous to dismiss claims until a judgment is passed. As stated a lot of perpetrators give off a different perception out in public. Just because someone’s claims seem outlandish doesn’t mean they are. To label the accuser before a judgement is passed just doesn’t do the cause any good. In my opinion of course
 
Ha, I didn’t notice it was you to be fair. I think your treading on egg shells with this one. I just think it’s dangerous to dismiss claims until a judgment is passed. As stated a lot of perpetrators give off a different perception out in public. Just because someone’s claims seem outlandish doesn’t mean they are. To label the accuser before a judgement is passed just doesn’t do the cause any good. In my opinion of course

While all that is true, in this case there are several people who have considerable experience of Depp behind the scenes. That doesn't mean he wasn't different during the period with Heard, but it does at least seem to be out of character. Whereas Heard looks nuts, regardless of whether she was struck by Depp or not.
 
..I am totally against these type of articles anyway, where is the public interest?

It’s just salacious tittle tattle. No need for it and no good can come from it...

That is the Sun all over & many other publications, the Gov had the chance with the Leveson inquiry, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveson_Inquiry but ducked their responsibility (maybe too many have a vested interest )
 
Depp had two ex-wives as character witnesses..... & many of AH's claims have been countered by independent witnesses... the judges reading of the case will be interesting..
 
I think like a lot of people when it started I was quite prepared to believe Depp was guilty but as the case progressed Heard came over very poorly with a lot of evidence against her. It may just be Depps lawyers are better but that was the impression. Anyway let's wait until we get the verdict from those who have studied alll the evidence in detail
 
I think like a lot of people when it started I was quite prepared to believe Depp was guilty but as the case progressed Heard came over very poorly with a lot of evidence against her. It may just be Depps lawyers are better but that was the impression. Anyway let's wait until we get the verdict from those who have studied alll the evidence in detail
That's the issue with domestic violence cases these days, people automatically assume that the male is guilty.
I don't believe Depp would bother with a legal case against a poxy newspaper like The Sun if he had any shred of guilt about him mind.
 
So Depp loses the trial against The Sun

https://news.sky.com/story/johnny-d...the-sun-over-amber-heard-allegations-12081479

Three months after the high profile three-week trial, Judge Justice Nicol has now ruled that the tabloid was justified in reporting that Depp was violent towards ex-wife Amber Heard on at least one occasion during their relationship.

Be interesting looking back at some of the comments who dismissed her as a liar, psycho, hope the sun win etc.

The case showed neither party in a good light.
 
The case showed neither party in a good light.

Never said it did. You will see on the OP and subsequent posts most say good on him, shes a psycho, hope he wins, seems a good guy etc etc.

Well he hasn't won. The Sun has been justified in calling him a wife beater. Essentially saying he is one.

Alot of domestic violence happens from "good guys" but in private they aren't. Just be interesting to see some reflection on them comments now
 
Surprising ruling to me, especially at the credibility the judge seems to have given Heard.

Drink and drugs are a dangerous combination.
 
Don’t forget this was a civil case.
He couldn’t persuade a judge that his version of events were more true than hers.

Burden of proof much lower than it would have been if she had brought criminal charges for domestic violence.
 
Don’t forget this was a civil case.
He couldn’t persuade a judge that his version of events were more true than hers.

Burden of proof much lower than it would have been if she had brought criminal charges for domestic violence.

Still the ruling has stated they were justified in publishing a story calling him a wife beater and justified reporting he was violet towards her. Hardly a glowing recommendation is it. I wouldn't think "He seems a nice guy" on the back of that.

Too many people are quick to jump to conclusions. Forgetting that alot of domestic abuse sufferers are disbelieved and make "crazy allegations" to others as the accused is such a nice guy. Something posters on this thread did before a verdict was passed.
 
Still the ruling has stated they were justified in publishing a story calling him a wife beater and justified reporting he was violet towards her. Hardly a glowing recommendation is it. I wouldn't think "He seems a nice guy" on the back of that.

Too many people are quick to jump to conclusions. Forgetting that alot of domestic abuse sufferers are disbelieved and make "crazy allegations" to others as the accused is such a nice guy. Something posters on this thread did before a verdict was passed.

Agree that Domestic Abuse is abhorrent and needs to be taken seriously. As you say - they are usually nice guys or nice women, they always are.

However, Domestic Abuse is a criminal act and I'm pretty sure you can not conclude he committed a criminal act after a verdict in a civil case.
 
Agree that Domestic Abuse is abhorrent and needs to be taken seriously. As you say - they are usually nice guys or nice women, they always are.

However, Domestic Abuse is a criminal act and I'm pretty sure you can not conclude he committed a criminal act after a verdict in a civil case.

I don't think you can conclude he never either. Based on the civil ruling I would find it more likely he did, than he did not. My point being posters prior to the ruling decided he did not and she was a liar. A position which does no favours to victims of domestic violence
 
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