Crowd Fund Raiser for sacked MET Officers

I'm not saying I agree with it, but I think what you're seeing is a reaction to both the race agenda and the place where many police officers feel the profession is at the moment, which is very much a thankless task.

They were sacked by a panel who found that they had lied about smelling cannabis, which I find a little surprising as it's a difficult conclusion to come whilst satisfying the burden of proof. I'm not sure if they've appealled this, but I think it's likely.

Policing is in a mess and public confidence is probably at an all time low.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
I'm not saying I agree with it, but I think what you're seeing is a reaction to both the race agenda and the place where many police officers feel the profession is at the moment, which is very much a thankless task.

They were sacked by a panel who found that they had lied about smelling cannabis, which I find a little surprising as it's a difficult conclusion to come whilst satisfying the burden of proof. I'm not sure if they've appealled this, but I think it's likely.

Policing is in a mess and public confidence is probably at an all time low.
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Being a police officer can be a difficult and thankless task sometimes but surely police officers like these just make life even more difficult for them.
 
motownjunk said:
Being a police officer can be a difficult and thankless task sometimes but surely police officers like these just make life even more difficult for them.
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"Like these"?

I don't know the details of the case, but I'm a little surprised as to the basis of their sacking. That's not to say they did, or didn't lie, only that it's maybe a difficult leap to be sure they did.

They Met, who aren't adverse to sacking officers when it's merited, didn't find any wrongdoing on their part.

The problem is twofold; the race agenda is so highly politicised it's difficult to find objectivity at times (more so in this particular case) and secondly there is a lack of confidence generally in policing, ergo police officers.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
"Like these"?

I don't know the details of the case, but I'm a little surprised as to the basis of their sacking. That's not to say they did, or didn't lie, only that it's maybe a difficult leap to be sure they did.

They Met, who aren't adverse to sacking officers when it's merited, didn't find any wrongdoing on their part.

The problem is twofold; the race agenda is so highly politicised it's difficult to find objectivity at times (more so in this particular case) and secondly there is a lack of confidence generally in policing, ergo police officers.
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Making evidence up is gross misconduct. Race doesn't come into it.
 
The Met have a dedicated team who look at all incidents that are affected by their officers' interaction dealing with the public. One of my friends is on the team; they take it really seriously and I'm surprised that a lot of Met police think they can do what they want when any interaction is investigated if complaints are made or where injury has been caused.
 
GibbosEmpire said:
If they were white would they have been stopped?
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If the officers smelt cannabis then yes, I would imagine so. I do think the level of force used in the video was aggressive considering there was a young child in the car and both seemed to be cooperating
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
They were sacked by a panel who found that they had lied about smelling cannabis, which I find a little surprising as it's a difficult conclusion to come whilst satisfying the burden of proof.
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Because, according to the panel, they didn't attempt to verify the source of the smell & then became "trapped in a lie" when asked to defend their actions.
 
Sergio said:
If the officers smelt cannabis then yes, I would imagine so. I do think the level of force used in the video was aggressive considering there was a young child in the car and both seemed to be cooperating
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But it was a lie that they smelt cannabis, so that's irrelevant?
 
GibbosEmpire said:
If they were white would they have been stopped?
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This is question isn't it? I'd imagine they'd say yes, absolutely they would, but only they know if that's true or not and its impossible to say that it isn't.

The agenda around race is so incredibly toxic its difficult to navigate an objective path through many incidents, this included.
 
I always tend to speak up for the police and have done on this board on several occasions. It is a thankless task but one that is made harder by bad apples. After watching this video I would have sacked all of them who played an active part. Their attitude throughout was disgusting throughout.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
It is, I agree, but I'm not sure how it can be proved they did so?
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Fortunately there are many, many effective ways to catch people out in a lie. Indeed, if there were not, the police’s day job would really be impossible. Several of these, in particular in relation to inconsistency of word and actions and subsequent self contradiction, seem to have been decisive here.
 
If a cop tries to pull you over... don't ignore the blue lights and try to speed off.. especially if you have your baby in the car.

Plods that tell porkies do deserve the boot mind.

These donations seem to trivialise the lies told by the police which is bizarre. But that's the world we live in and they do walk amongst us.
 
Sergio said:
If the officers smelt cannabis then yes, I would imagine so. I do think the level of force used in the video was aggressive considering there was a young child in the car and both seemed to be cooperating
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They were not cooperating by refusing to open the door. when asked. What are the police supposed to do in this situation (not rhetorical q)?
 
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