Cristiano Ronaldo

There’s this concept I’ve learnt from NBA discussion about players who are “net negatives”.

They can be the best players, but when you take into account the full package - the salary, the drama they bring, what they can do on the pitch/court vs what they can’t do, and how much you have to adapt the rest of your team to fit them in, you end up with a player who is a net negative. A worse player actually improves the team, even though they’re nowhere near as talented and can’t produce as much.

Ronaldo’s one of them now.

Utterly incredible goalscorer still, doesn’t defend so you’re one man down when he doesn’t have the ball. Selfish on the pitch, always has been, so makes other very good players worse. Costs so much and brings so much attention that he can only play for top, top clubs. But, top top clubs won’t take him because he’s almost the ultimate luxury player now, as much as guaranteed 25-30 goals is a luxury. You’re not winning the Champions League with Ronaldo up front.

I don’t see where his next move is.
 
Player unhappy that new manager doesn't play him. Fair do's. Probably should have kept it in house mind. Although Ten Haag can't say over the summer Ronaldo is a vital part of the team and then only play him in the Europa League. This is Cristiano Ronaldo, as someone else mentioned, guarantees 25-30 goals a year still at 37. And yes he's still good enough. He starts for every team in the premier league unless it's City or Liverpool.
 
Randy said:
He starts for every team in the premier league unless it's City or Liverpool.
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Do you reckon he does though?

I know it sounds ridiculous to say, because it’s Cristiano Ronaldo, but I’m not sure he gets into any of the top 7.

I don’t think you can seriously challenge for a title if you’ve got a player who doesn’t do tactics / systems and is a black hole without the ball.

I mean he’d start for Southampton, but I don’t think any manager who likes tactics would or could start him. Conte and Potter definitely wouldn’t. Evidently United have decided that his 25-30 goals aren’t worth what he takes away from the rest of the team, and they’re not quite a Champions League team.
 
He`s a talented man - done wonders for football.
Now its time to retire.
He makes some very valid points.
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Forced out the club?? Wasn't he practically peddling himself all over europe in the summer but no one wanted him?? Ive never like him, always comes across up his own **** and now, cos things aren't going his way, he's throwing his toys out the pram and blaming everyone else, when, in reality, he's just not the same player anymore
 
I think there came a point, over the last season or two, where his personal ambition for setting new records overtook what should have been his main priority of playing for the team.

Not playing, particularly in the Champions League, will be killing him and thats why he's been pushing for a move since the summer.

But he's very much towards the end of his career and I'm not sure how many clubs would take him, if the ones that could afford to. Even more so after his conduct recently.
 
joeydiaz said:
Should never have returned to United, only got himself to blame for listening to Fergie.
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Maybe Fergie should finally keep his nose out from now on.

Man Utd probably feel like they could do anything with him, they're a commercial club and he's been brought in for commercial reasons.

Wheres Ronaldo was treat like a King at Madrid a King at Juventus but even they didn't want to keep a mid 30's superstar so he's went back to Man Utd to be treat like a god and it's a rebuilding job.

You can't blame Ten Haag by telling to run a bit more as they're not good enough to carry him.
 
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