Corbyn won't be a Labour candidate at General Election

Blaming the state of the country at present on Corbyn is a bit like victim blaming…

The right wing media pulled apart his campaign and facilitated a Tory victory but many of his mocked policies like tree planting and universal broadband soon found their way in to the Tory policies…

He definitely made huge mistake but the country did not deserve to be punished by Boris because of them…
 
Blaming the state of the country at present on Corbyn is a bit like victim blaming…

The right wing media pulled apart his campaign and facilitated a Tory victory but many of his mocked policies like tree planting and universal broadband soon found their way in to the Tory policies…

He definitely made huge mistake but the country did not deserve to be punished by Boris because of them…

And it was his job to manage the media and he didn't.
And the country suffers terribly for it.
His fault, and his supporters.
 
Even Abbott is doing the rounds saying Starmer and Corbyn clash because at heart Corbyn is a “ true brexiteer”. Ironically smashed by Johnson in 2019 who I don’t think for a minute truly thinks Brexit was a good idea but latched onto it for the populist vote.

Corbyn is almost as culpable as Cameron in my opinion for what happened in 2016.
 
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Blaming the state of the country at present on Corbyn is a bit like victim blaming…

The right wing media pulled apart his campaign and facilitated a Tory victory but many of his mocked policies like tree planting and universal broadband soon found their way in to the Tory policies…

He definitely made huge mistake but the country did not deserve to be punished by Boris because of them…
Agree but two awful choices led to the least one ( at least to some voters I knew) he should have stepped down when May did and allow a coalition government. That was 100% him.
 
And it was his job to manage the media and he didn't.
And the country suffers terribly for it.
His fault, and his supporters.
No, I agree he should have dealt with I better but the state of the country lies solely on the shoulders of those that have failed to govern this country since then… and to some extent, those that were fooled by the right wing propaganda and switched to the tories because they were worried their money was going to be used to pay for a better country and not give them personally, a better life…
 
Corbyn gave us all a bit of fun. I supported him but he lost twice. The message on the doorsteps prior to the last election was crystal clear - he moves people away from voting Labour.

On a personal note I think it is sad the way he has been treated by Starmer.
But - the key card the Tories have against Starmer is Corbyn. He’s acted for a reason.

I do smile at those who say Starmer is indistinguishable from a Tory. It demonstrates either laziness or dogma (maybe both).

Many of us want to see an end to selfish politicians on the take at the expense of the country.

A Corbyn free party will attract more voters.
 
Corbyn gave us all a bit of fun. I supported him but he lost twice. The message on the doorsteps prior to the last election was crystal clear - he moves people away from voting Labour.

On a personal note I think it is sad the way he has been treated by Starmer.
But - the key card the Tories have against Starmer is Corbyn. He’s acted for a reason.

I do smile at those who say Starmer is indistinguishable from a Tory. It demonstrates either laziness or dogma (maybe both).

Many of us want to see an end to selfish politicians on the take at the expense of the country.

A Corbyn free party will attract more voters.
Fully agree re the Starmer point, it's also potentially very self destructive.
 
Votes Cast
2010 Con 10.7M, Lab 08.6M
2015 Con 11.3M, Lab 09.3M
2017 Con 13.6M, Lab 12.9M
2019 Con 13.9M, Lab 10.3M

Now it is reported as worst result ever in 2019 but more votes than Blair, Brown or Miliband. Interesting the apparent surge from Red to Blue in 2019 was a lie. Labour lost leave seats as Starmer and Mandelson made a 2nd referendum policy.

Boris got similar to May in actual fact but as Farage said our system does not lead to the right result. And the Brexit Party only stood in Labour Seats!

Nigel Farage said first-past-the-post is 'now totally bankrupt' after his party came third in the total number of votes cast, but got a fraction of the 56 seats of the SNP or even the eight MPs secured by the Lib Dems.
It was the worst result in 80 years - the seats they got gave The Tories an 80 seat majority to do as they please
 
As pointed out above Corbyn won more voters but the second referendum policy (Starmers) was a disaster. It's also why he won't talk about the EU now

Starmers policies are very aligned to the Tories. I actuality it funny people think there's a difference and that those who actually follow policies who think they are broadly similar have got it wrong.

Especially on things that voters say are key issues like immigration

Corbyn is gone and so have the policies and a Labour government will be marginally better.

Starmer's policy that Corbyn put out to the media before he did, but ok.

If Starmer had that much influence over Corbyn that he couldn't come up with and enforce his own plan, that kind of shows that he was lacking as a leader, which unfortunately for us all, he was.
 
As pointed out above Corbyn won more voters but the second referendum policy (Starmers) was a disaster. It's also why he won't talk about the EU now

Starmers policies are very aligned to the Tories. I actuality it funny people think there's a difference and that those who actually follow policies who think they are broadly similar have got it wrong.

Especially on things that voters say are key issues like immigration

Corbyn is gone and so have the policies and a Labour government will be marginally better.
Blair Despite all the nonsense Corbyn fans spout, was not a tory and made actial positive change. Would have preferred Smith but sadly that was not possible. Corbyn and his bag of spanners likely the laziest mp ever. No use in parliament and Despite the anti Tory vote in 2017 he remained unpopular. Sadly his supporters want another tory win to justify his failure.
 
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