Conspiracy theorists

[Liamo]

It's weird that Lee Harvey Oswald was claiming to be a 'patsy' after he got caught. You'd think a lone gunman nutter would want the fame and glory after their shooting. And it's also weird that Jack Ruby runs up to shoot LHO and then dies himself in prison. TBH I think it's odd that anyone looks at the whole Kennedy assassination and thinks to themselves that there 100% was definitely nothing going on there that we don't already know about. The whole situation is bizarre.

I get why there's a load of posts on this thread basically saying people buy in to conspiracy theories to make themselves feel special and like they're in some way superior to others, but I think it can work in the reverse as well. Some folk seem to immediately dismiss any of this stuff as a way to prove they're so smart they couldn't possibly be conned by a conspiracy theory like all the other shmucks.

Epstein killing himself in prison whilst on suicide watch and the camera suddenly malfunctioning is another one. Surely it's perfectly ordinary for people to hear that and think hmmm sounds a bit too coincidental.

The US soldiers going to get Bin Laden and then dropping him in the sea on the way back I always thought was a very weird story too.

Also I don't think you can just dismiss any conspiracies that get revealed and accepted as the mainstream as not being conspiracy theories. Like with the dodgy dossier one for the Iraq war. It won't have been Blair and Campbell's intention that the sexing up of the dossier be revealed to the public. If they could have kept that under wraps they would have done. And if they had been able to, and someone came on here saying the dossier was "sexed up" and full of falsehoods to get the country to go to war, others would be dismissing it as a wacky nutjob conspiracy imho.

A conspiracy theory is when people believe in a theory of how something happened, despite there being no actual (reliable) evidence to prove that theory. It usually also has a shadowy group of people involved in bringing about whatever happens to be the event (or events) in question, but also without there being any good, verifiable evidence of them or their involvement.

If there is actual, reliable evidence for something (even if it doesn't emerge until some time later) then it's no longer a conspiracy theory, it's a cogent explanation backed up by evidence.

It's perfectly fine to have doubts about something but unless there's actual, verifiable evidence for a particular explanation, it remains just a theory. If it's based on no real evidence and relies on the involvement of unknown people, that makes it a conspiracy theory in my book.

 

[A]

this is why I'm so sceptical of ufo's and ghosts: there just just isn't any unequivocal evidence to prove their existence. Even in today's world where so many of us have a smartphone with a half decent camera, all the supposed photographic evidence looks like its been taken using a potato

 

[Ted_DN38416]

LHO didnt kill JFK. Read best evidence by David S Lifton or check out Doug Horne’s presentation. He was an analyst on the ARRB. Interview with Dino Brugioni who was Assistant head of NPIC about the Z film is fascinating. None of this is conspiracy. Its what you can prove by reviewing the facts. Like Alvez said earlier many seem to ridicule others for their differing opinion but, at the same time; the world views and truths of those that ridicule others are more often than not grounded in non critical thinking

 

[Borobarmy]

So has the theory that Geordies are deluded have substance then ?
It certainly should as its all I've ever observed .

 

[Randy]

A conspiracy theory is when people believe in a theory of how something happened, despite there being no actual (reliable) evidence to prove that theory. It usually also has a shadowy group of people involved in bringing about whatever happens to be the event (or events) in question, but also without there being any good, verifiable evidence of them or their involvement.

If there is actual, reliable evidence for something (even if it doesn't emerge until some time later) then it's no longer a conspiracy theory, it's a cogent explanation backed up by evidence.

It's perfectly fine to have doubts about something but unless there's actual, verifiable evidence for a particular explanation, it remains just a theory. If it's based on no real evidence and relies on the involvement of unknown people, that makes it a conspiracy theory in my book.

Did you know the term conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA?

 

[Randy]

this is why I'm so sceptical of ufo's and ghosts: there just just isn't any unequivocal evidence to prove their existence. Even in today's world where so many of us have a smartphone with a half decent camera, all the supposed photographic evidence looks like its been taken using a potato

Search for the 'That Is Impossible' channel on YouTube mate. Some of the stuff on there is very hard to explain away.

 

[Ziggy]

LHO didnt kill JFK. Read best evidence by David S Lifton or check out Doug Horne’s presentation. He was an analyst on the ARRB. Interview with Dino Brugioni who was Assistant head of NPIC about the Z film is fascinating. None of this is conspiracy. Its what you can prove by reviewing the facts. Like Alvez said earlier many seem to ridicule others for their differing opinion but, at the same time; the world views and truths of those that ridicule others are more often than not grounded in non critical thinking

Best Evidence is really worth reading
Used to be available in libraries, when we had some.

 

[Anton_Berg]

There's always been conspiracy theories. Pre-internet, they were called rumours. They were conveyed, face to face, in social situations like pubs, which tended to inhibit the spread of the less credible stuff.

 

[asredastheycome]

Sometimes living in this country feels like how I imagine Rome before the fall.

What last summer

 

[Ted_DN38416]

Best Evidence is really worth reading
Used to be available in libraries, when we had some.

Damn straight it is. Hopefully Final Charade will see the light of day sometime soon. From what ive heard, its really going to be something

 

[Middlesbrough123]

Shaun Atwood does a fare bit on YouTube although not necessarily conspiracy theories, especially ebstien .

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

General rule of thumb. If someone uses more than five acronyms in a paragraph they're a barmpot.

 

[swordtrombonefish]

There's always been conspiracy theories. Pre-internet, they were called rumours. They were conveyed, face to face, in social situations like pubs, which tended to inhibit the spread of the less credible stuff.

When people were told to stop being such a gullible ar*****e?

 

[SuperStu]

A conspiracy theory is when people believe in a theory of how something happened, despite there being no actual (reliable) evidence to prove that theory.

I don't think that's quite correct. I think the key thing in the definition is that it's based on their being some individual or group of individuals acting in some secret conspiratorial way. I don't think a conspiracy necessarily has to have no evidence. And I don't think it's quite right to say that once something has been proven it stops having been a conspiracy. Maybe it stops being a theory?

 

[Randy]

Quanon post doing the rounds on twitter.

 

[Ziggy]

There have always been conspiracies, and theories.
The Cataline Conspiracy began almost to the day. January 1, 63 BCE, that Marcus Tullius Cicero took office as Consul of Rome.

" The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" - Lenin

 

[Lefty]

Search for the 'That Is Impossible' channel on YouTube mate. Some of the stuff on there is very hard to explain away.

Better still, just watch this.