Climate change and lack of action

afcb_acklam said:
I'm afraid I gave up believing humans were able to deal with this problem years ago, its simply too big for us to deal with. I also predict a far faster, nastier end to it all than is commonly talked about. Based on absolutely nothing other than years of thought, worry, and being fairly tuned into the natural world. Enjoy each day, be kind & carry on with the madness.....
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I agree with you. I have no qualifications but spend most of my none working life in the outdoors.
The problem is…..humans. There’s to many of us, we’re greedy, we’re wasteful and we’re selfish. No amount of trees will assist in prevent our demise which, going back to afcb point, I see it being only a few hundred years away for a large portion of us
 
Pak_Doo_Ik said:
When I was a kid we were told the greenhouse gases were leading to the erosion of the ozone layer and this would lead to global warming. From this the planet temperature would increase and sea levels would rise. This would mean that places look Hull would be flooded and would no longer exist.

Well unfortunately Hull still bl00dy exists so I decree it’s all nonsense🤭
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You bitch.
 
Boroboyyo said:
I know it’s being done to death, but at what point is it going to get so bad that governments worldwide start acknowledging there is a serious problem and the current measures are not strong enough ?

Based on current policies , we’re forecast to have global temperatures rise by 3 degrees Celsius by 2100 . Doesn’t sound to big but such an increase will destroy plenty of ecosystems and subject significant parts of the world to famine and severe water shortages . I mean we’ve already had an increase of just 1.2 degrees Celsius and already all of southern and Eastern England are under drought and I read a shocking statistic a few weeks back that nearly 60% of the eu were in danger of entering drought. Satellite images currently of Southern England and France make them look like deserts

I don’t know about you lot but even as a 31 year old I’ve noticed the weather change over time :

- every few years you could guarantee a winter with a decent bit of snow . Aside from the beast from the east , this hasn’t happened in the last 12 years .
- you do sometimes get them , but mornings in the winter where you wake up to frost are much less frequent
- winters just feel overall milder

I seriously worry for the future unless more radical action is taken on this subject :

- banning of sales of petrol and diesel cars needs to be accelerated
- our cities need much more trees and greenery
- carbon capture as a technology needs to become much more common than it currently is
- more investment in renewables and promotion business of companies that sell renewables
- much more of investment in nuclear energy . Much more investment in the research of fusion technology too
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YAWN
 
Facefuzz said:
I agree with you. I have no qualifications but spend most of my none working life in the outdoors.
The problem is…..humans. There’s to many of us, we’re greedy, we’re wasteful and we’re selfish. No amount of trees will assist in prevent our demise which, going back to afcb point, I see it being only a few hundred years away for a large portion of us
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I predict 25-30 years - but it won’t be climate change that kills large swathes of us plebs
 
Aswell as investment in green energy the world needs investment and forward thinking on colonising planets beyond our solar system.

Like it or not but this planet DOES have a limited shelf life, millions of years away granted, when the sun goes out, that's it, game over.
 
What concerns me was the tipping point for last chance climate change was mid 2017, according to many experts. We will probably be OK for a while with only small differences, by when we hit 44 degrees in the Summer we will need desalination plants in the UK and low levels area will be flooding if the whole world is two degrees warmer.

Possibly in the Western Europe we have been used to doing what we like as we are just 8% of the World, but when countries like India and China have copied us it has a massive impact - they are over 6 times bigger.

The BBC documentary said the USA was giving off more pollution now than in the bad old days of coal fires, gas guzzlers, full industralisation.
 
Randy said:
So you don't think that we need to do that then Jedi?
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All we need to do is locate a planet, create time travel (or learn how to keep people alive without ageing a billion years) make spaceships which can carry thousands of people, get to where we’re going and hope they let us in (after we tell them we’ve killed our planet)
Seems do able 😂
 
Sorry, 3 posts at once.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
What I believe we need to do, and the only way to reverse the damage, is to get the number of humans down. There is simply to many of us
 
I think minimalism is the way to go if we’re realistic about doing anything . Most things we here about and people boasting about is just superficial . Some a more interested in looking like their doing something than actually making a difference
 
Funky_Chicken said:
Like píssing in the wind when China are building coal fired power stations willy nilly everywhere over there - the time to do something was fifty years ago when it might have made a difference. They’ve been banging on about global warming since the early seventies at least - it’s bit like closing the stable door when the horse has already wandered off down the road now
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They have been banging on about climate change since the late 1800s - when it was us spewing all sorts of rubbish into the atmosphere.

On a broader point - why do we always point the finger outwards?
What about personal responsibility - and I’m not talking about putting your empty bean can in the recycling.
Plant based diet, for instance, is usually in the top 3 or 4 things that can make a difference.
Less than 1% of UK population is on that kind of diet.

What happens next, by the way, is someone finds something that says plant based isn’t important and everyone who isn’t plant based uses that rather than the other 95% of studies.
 
Facefuzz said:
Sorry, 3 posts at once.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
What I believe we need to do, and the only way to reverse the damage, is to get the number of humans down. There is simply to many of us
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Thanks for volunteering
 
Unfortunately until people stop having more than one child per couple, start using public transport or cycling instead of driving (the carbon footprint for electric vehicle production and recharging is enormous), stop eating meat and stop taking holidays abroad, then complaining about the governments lack of action will achieve nothing. We live in a society that pretends it cares about climate change right up until the point it impacts on their quality of life.

And I’m not on my high horse, I’m also guilty of this.
 
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imo, watever we do now is pisssing in the wind - all the problems are pretty much locked in for the coming decades, regardless of a few changes now (which almost certainly wont happen anyway)
 
Did I read somewhere that if you cover 100 square miles of the sahara desert with solar panels it will provide enough electric for wait for it.........

the whole planet!
 
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