China recriminations.

China coming clean. The best line this year.

Do you think they will come clean on their Muslim training ?
That's what they have said it is, so yes. Except it's a lie.

I have a lot of Uighur friends in that part of the world and things have never been good, but 2007, prior to the Olympics, it got a lot worse.

I was in the centre of Urumqi the night China were awarded the games. It was the only time I have seen Han and Uighur celebrating together. At the time, the Han Chinese that had been forcibly moved to populate the area were badly treated as well.
 
China coming clean. The best line this year.

Do you think they will come clean on their Muslim training ?

I'd be interested to know where they keep their rolling stock for the railyards and where all the excess hair they've shaved off of religious prisoners has gone.
 
Doing quite well out of it now.
They have the virus well under control. Cases and deaths very low and their econimy has picked up.
While many other major countries struggle with health and a decimated economy the Chinese are well placed by comparison.

Should we look at sanctions when this is all done?
Sanctions for dealing with a novel virus? Huh?
 
That's what they have said it is, so yes. Except it's a lie.

I have a lot of Uighur friends in that part of the world and things have never been good, but 2007, prior to the Olympics, it got a lot worse.

I was in the centre of Urumqi the night China were awarded the games. It was the only time I have seen Han and Uighur celebrating together. At the time, the Han Chinese that had been forcibly moved to populate the area were badly treated as well.

I had no idea where Uighur was, saying that I thought the Falklands was near Orkney.
 
I had no idea where Uighur was, saying that I thought the Falklands was near Orkney.
It's one of the Muslim peoples that are the main population currently incarcerated around Xinjiang. Kasaks are the other main Muslim community in Xinjiang.

If you travel due North as far as you can go then due South from the Orkneys, you'll soon get to the Falklands.
 
It's one of the Muslim peoples that are the main population currently incarcerated

And by incarcerated you mean rounded up, beaten, heads shaved, forced to sleep in tents in concentration camps and then bundled onto train carriages never to be seen again right?

Now where have I read of that happening before? 🤔

The rulers of China are despicable, what with the treatment of Uighur Muslims in the country, human rights abuses, pollution issues, indoctrination of its children, constant surveillance of its people, social 'scores' and it's willingness to openly antagonise and threaten the smaller countries around China.
If China was a country in the middle east with oil reserves the yanks and NATO would have invaded and overthrown the ruling regime by now.
 
That makes the Chinese behaviour ok then.

A pretty warped logic in my eyes but each to their own
My wife and I are on a 36 day trip driving around the coast of Great Britain with our dog.
Day 30 today and in Bournemouth.
Interesting chat with a Pakistani academic in Thurso of all places. He explained why many people in the Middle and Far East, sub continent and south east Asia are a lot more open minded about China than they are the US.
I’m not saying I bought all he said, but like a lot of other people on this mighty trip, he certainly made me think.
 
Like they have with the Saudi Arabians you mean?
Like who have with the Saudis?

The point is that the Chinese leaders are committing atrocities against people because of the religion they follow and the rest of the world isn't doing anything about it.
 
Like who have with the Saudis?

The point is that the Chinese leaders are committing atrocities against people because of the religion they follow and the rest of the world isn't doing anything about it.
You jumped in with the same two left feet.

That's not what he was saying
 
You jumped in with the same two left feet.

That's not what he was saying
Eh?

I'm not jumping to anything? I'm wondering who else is treating those people the same as the Chinese are. Are the Saudis? If they are they should be held to account too.
 
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