Chat GPT

coluka

coluka

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Just heard the debate on GMB so signed up to see what it is all about.
What would and could you use it for In everyday life?
Can it replace people?

I can see it being used in dealing with responses on here from time to time, although I’d like to think it would stand out as being different in style to how we normally write. It seems to have great possibilities for good but can be used for nefarious means too. Anyone else concerned or enthused by this new technology?

I asked it what were Middlesbrough FC ‘s chances of promotion in the coming 2023/24 season?

The reply was common sense and well written:-

“As an AI, I don't have access to real-time data or the ability to predict future events. Therefore, I cannot provide you with specific information on Middlesbrough Football Club's chances of promotion for the 2023/24 season. Football outcomes are influenced by numerous factors, including team performance, player transfers, injuries, managerial changes, and competition within the league. To stay updated on Middlesbrough's progress and prospects for promotion, I recommend following reliable news sources, checking football websites, or engaging with fellow fans who may have more recent information”

What do people think? Can you see yourself using it?
 
People use it for all sorts of work related stuff now. Obviously you have the option to edit and adapt it after the AI has written it, much like copying your mate’s work at school/college/university.
 
atypical_boro said:
People use it for all sorts of work related stuff now. Obviously you have the option to edit and adapt it after the AI has written it, much like copying your mate’s work at school/college/university.
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Is this form of AI a form of google, Alexa, Siri mixed into one but just displayed in a more human kind of response? I can see schoolkids loving it, I haven’t got my head around how criminals may use other developing new technologies yet, all sounds a bit scary how quickly AI is developing, probably because I am still in the AI dark ages somewhat.
 
I've been playing around with it for work. It can offer some assistance, but it's the prompt of the person using it which generates the best responses.

A little bit like when you first use a calculator at school. It doesn't actually get the answer for you as you still need to get the input correct.
 
I have been playing around with it too. Semi retired but still have some involvement in my previous industry (producing psychology tests). BARD gave me full details of a test which is copyrighted; ChatGBT declined, stating it was not in the public domain. Both produced "new" versions of the test, using the same model, in seconds. I have also produced these pilot versions of many other tests. This stage could easily have taken an item writer days, if not weeks. Although large scale item banks are sometimes available. These generative AI apps (and I only have basic access) produces the "product" in seconds.

I am at a talk this week at a leading university and I know that they have a more sophisticated app to do a lot more of what was previously considered pretty skilled work.
 
It's main advantage of siri and Alexa is that it remains contextual. You should have a conversation with it to create that context. It remembers are relates what has gone before on a session.

Where it is crap, at the minute, it's it is already out of date. Though they are in the process of connecting it to the Internet.

Bings ai is connected to the Internet.

It is worth saying that this is not a giant leap forward. It appears to be, because we equate speach with intelligence. In the example above it doesn't know where Middlesbrough is, what Middlesbrough is or how a football club relates to the place for which it is named. It is essentially, bulls hitting us.
 
It’s an effective aggregator of all things on the internet. Is it a bad thing?. Well the arguments against certainly talk of schoolchildren using it to write essays etc. but the internet helps them anyway. We have to look at it as moving on from the time when we studied at school and Uni and embrace it as it isn’t going away.
 
By coincidence I was sent this today:

ChatGPT is both amazing - and disappointing. Amazing because it seems so human, but disappointing because, as a large language model, it's based on troves of human language, a sort of autocomplete on steroids, and can't really progress beyond this. Hence everything it says is from something that humans have said (even when both get it wrong). No new intelligence there. And also sad. ..... But, that said, context is all important. Anything to do with how human language is used is fine, just don't ask it to solve the world's problems.

I guess understanding Boro's chances next season comes under 'world problems'.
 
I was at a conference the other week covering Chat GPT and AI in general.
Great conversations.
One stand out comment -
‘Chat GPT et al will change the world in ways we still can’t comprehend. It will have the same impact in 3-5 years that the internet has had in 40’.

See you in 2028 on the last remaining footy forum site?
 
AI, please write me a modern song in the style of The Smiths from 1980's:

Frankly, Mr Banksy, these things that you paint
It pays your way, and it corrodes the wall
 
almost everything in our house that can be automated, is. We use Home Assistant which can have code done to help things talk to each other. An example being our bathroom has hue lights and an extractor fan in the loft, with a double switch outside the bathroom for lights and fan.

That doesn't get used now as there is a small 50p sized temperature and humidity sensor tucked away on side of mirrored cabinet, and a PIR above the door.

A few scripts run so that if you enter the room and it's between set hours the fan and lights come on for 15 mins, outside those hours during the day it's just the fan, and at night just the lights but at a lower level. Any motion during that 15 minutes resets it back to the start, otherwise it goes off on its own, or runs for 1 hour max in case the motion sensor goes flat for example.

Separately if humidity goes above a set level, adjusted for weather and seasonality, the fan will come on until humidity is lower. This takes all operation of the fan and lights out of our hands as otherwise you have to have an overrun timer, or use the switches and if you want quiet hours etc you need a fan with an app etc. there is also a leak sensor behind the bath should the tap or waste ever leak and we get notifications off it. Stats are kept so I can see humidity or temp history etc and know if anything is wrong. You can get fans that do all that, but that wouldn't integrate with the lights or anything else and i wouldn't get the data.

And so forth. These are all conditions that get added to the automations

Anyway I'm not great at programming and often find automations others have made but modify them for my use, but find chatgpt very good for suggesting code, reviewing code or explaining what something means. It isn't always right so I don't trust it without testing it - it's very good at sounding right, but without it I'd have to wait for forum replies or rely on Reddit etc

Another thing I often show people chatgpt for is either summarising text into a condensed version (writing summary slides for example) or if they want to know what something means or how it works ask it to explain it you like you're 5 years old

Someone needs to make an Alexa style device that integrates with it as I'd probably find that more useful than Alexa
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
almost everything in our house that can be automated, is. We use Home Assistant which can have code done to help things talk to each other. An example being our bathroom has hue lights and an extractor fan in the loft, with a double switch outside the bathroom for lights and fan.

That doesn't get used now as there is a small 50p sized temperature and humidity sensor tucked away on side of mirrored cabinet, and a PIR above the door.

A few scripts run so that if you enter the room and it's between set hours the fan and lights come on for 15 mins, outside those hours during the day it's just the fan, and at night just the lights but at a lower level. Separately if humidity goes above a set level, adjusted for weather and seasonality, the fan will come on until humidity is lower. This takes all operation of the fan and lights out of our hands as otherwise you have to have an overrun timer, or use the switches and if you want quiet hours etc you need a fan with an app etc. there is also a leak sensor behind the bath should the tap or waste ever leak and we get notifications off it. Stats are kept so I can see humidity or temp history etc and know if anything is wrong. You can get fans that do all that, but that wouldn't integrate with the lights or anything else and i wouldn't get the data.

And so forth.

Anyway I'm not great at programming and often find automations others have made but modify them for my use, but find chatgpt very good for suggesting code, reviewing code or explaining what something means. It isn't always right so I don't trust it without testing it - it's very good at sounding right, but without it I'd have to wait for forum replies or rely on Reddit etc

Another thing I often show people chatgpt for is either summarising text into a condensed version (writing summary slides for example) or if they want to know what something means or how it works ask it to explain it you like you're 5 years old

Someone needs to make an Alexa style device that integrates with it as I'd probably find that more useful than Alexa
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It's quite good at correcting its own code if you show it the errors. You can use it like Alexa if you install a Chrome extension - Voice Control for chatGPT. One of my Chinese students showed me this - she uses it to practice conversational English.
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
almost everything in our house that can be automated, is. We use Home Assistant which can have code done to help things talk to each other. An example being our bathroom has hue lights and an extractor fan in the loft, with a double switch outside the bathroom for lights and fan.

That doesn't get used now as there is a small 50p sized temperature and humidity sensor tucked away on side of mirrored cabinet, and a PIR above the door.

A few scripts run so that if you enter the room and it's between set hours the fan and lights come on for 15 mins, outside those hours during the day it's just the fan, and at night just the lights but at a lower level. Any motion during that 15 minutes resets it back to the start, otherwise it goes off on its own, or runs for 1 hour max in case the motion sensor goes flat for example.

Separately if humidity goes above a set level, adjusted for weather and seasonality, the fan will come on until humidity is lower. This takes all operation of the fan and lights out of our hands as otherwise you have to have an overrun timer, or use the switches and if you want quiet hours etc you need a fan with an app etc. there is also a leak sensor behind the bath should the tap or waste ever leak and we get notifications off it. Stats are kept so I can see humidity or temp history etc and know if anything is wrong. You can get fans that do all that, but that wouldn't integrate with the lights or anything else and i wouldn't get the data.

And so forth. These are all conditions that get added to the automations

Anyway I'm not great at programming and often find automations others have made but modify them for my use, but find chatgpt very good for suggesting code, reviewing code or explaining what something means. It isn't always right so I don't trust it without testing it - it's very good at sounding right, but without it I'd have to wait for forum replies or rely on Reddit etc

Another thing I often show people chatgpt for is either summarising text into a condensed version (writing summary slides for example) or if they want to know what something means or how it works ask it to explain it you like you're 5 years old

Someone needs to make an Alexa style device that integrates with it as I'd probably find that more useful than Alexa
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We open a window.
 
AI is going to make a lot of jobs redundant but it will also solve a lot of the world’s problems. It’s a matter of time and processing power before it’s replacing teachers and medical professionals and it will do a far better job than both. Imagine a 24/7 instant access GP who can learn about new conditions and treatments the instant they’re discovered by any other GP in the world.
 
I used it a few times a few months back, when it was using pre-2021 data, and it was ludicrous then, probably one of the most impressive things I've ever seen, or impressive in how things actually changed so quickly. Since then it's had an update and is now using current data I think. I've not even used Bing or Bard and they're meant to be even better in some ways.

I started re-learning programming before using chat GPT, and it seems beyond excellent at creating code (I think it uses codex which has been about for a while). It was far better than I ever was when I could actually code, back in the day, and a thousand times faster (and can do what I want in 100 different languages). With a bit of hand-holding, you can really do amazing things, but the people who will get the most out of it are the trained people and experts who can keep it on track, as it just saves a ludicrous amount of time. It would be hard for a novice to use it with code (instantly), as they wouldn't know what to ask it, and how to keep it on track. But the crazy thing is a novice can actually use it to learn, and for this, it is incredible when paired with other learning tools.

Once I get through my current to-do list, which is very long, I'm basically going to create a few programs to effectively replace what I do at work, or 75% of the time-intensive but relatively simple tasks, which will allow me more time to focus on the 25% where the money is actually made.

To me, for running a business, using AI will help me get ahead of the competition, in the same way that building a website and using Google AdWords both did back in the day.

Took me about 10 minutes of using it before I realised this is really going to change the world, and extremely quickly, it was like first using a search engine, but with 100x the power, and then knowing next year it's going to be 1000x, and so on. It's just going to improve the efficiency of anything which has any involvement in tech, which is just about anything.
 
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I can't wait until somebody puts it in a box which can be put on the mantlepiece, it can understand spoken word and speaks itself - our lass will love arguing with it and I can just stick my headphones on and leave her to it ..
 
Mate of mine runs a kitchen. He got ChatGPT to build him a database with a web front-end that him and his team now use for tracking stock levels, checking ingredients, costing recipes, etc. It's insane
 
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