Championship 2023/24 Predictions

Soyuncu is one of the 7 players out of contract. As is Evans and Amartey. So they're struggling at centre back before they start.

Not a cat in hells chance of Barnes staying. He'll want to be away and they desperately need the money as they won't have access to any parachute payment.

I'm not ruling them out of the promotion race, but they'll have to do some canny business in the market to replace the 12-15 players who will leave over the summer.
Soyuncu's had injury bother though hasn't he, and hasn't played much, but Smith got him back in the fold, so he may stay due to that (if Smith stays), but we'll see.

Barnes is good, but I don't think he is as good as people say (and at 25 is as good as he's probably goign to get), and can't think out of who has stayed up where they would buy him and give him game time. He's got two years left on his deal, so they might try and keep him for a year, like how Watford held Pedro and Sarr. Leicester do need money though, but they will get a lot for some of their other players, there's a hell of a lot of value in their squad.

Some of the players might take a bit of responsibility and stay, but overall I think more would stay than they expect as they should go straight back up if they retain them.

Evans is 35, I think he will probably stay.

I'm not saying they won't all go mind, but if they do then they're going to recoup a hell of a lot of money, which I would assume would massively eclipse their debt due this year, or their parachute payments get used against that (if it's legal).
 
Barnes is good, but I don't think he is as good as people say (and at 25 is as good as he's probably goign to get), and can't think out of who has stayed up where they would buy him and give him game time
Is this Harvey Barnes you're talking about?

He's had a good season - especially in a bang average team. 13 league goals from a wide midfielder in a relegation team is something that isn't to be sniffed at.

I think you're totally wrong.

He will have a good few clubs looking at him. The promoted clubs for a start, then he'd improve the likes of Everton, West Ham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Forest, Fulham...to name a few.
 
Is this Harvey Barnes you're talking about?

He's had a good season - especially in a bang average team. 13 league goals from a wide midfielder in a relegation team is something that isn't to be sniffed at.

I think you're totally wrong.

He will have a good few clubs looking at him. The promoted clubs for a start, then he'd improve the likes of Everton, West Ham, Wolves, Bournemouth, Forest, Fulham...to name a few.
Yeah, of course it is. He's done ok, but I still think he's overrated. He's a winger, with little defensive responsibility and they only play 1 up front, so the wingers and no 10 are expected to get goals (like ours, same formation), the same way that Tielemans and Maddison were meant to all chip in too, they all underperformed.

I don't think the team is bang average (well maybe it is bang average for the prem, in that it should have easily finished mid table). I just think they've massively underperformed, in all areas. They're probably the strongest squad to ever get relegated from the prem.

I think they just always thought they were going to get out of it, and they didn't face reality soon enough, and it was too late by then.

The point is what are Leicester going to value him at, and what will those clubs want to pay, and they can also look at a 100 other alternatives. If they get him on a 4 year contract he'll be 30, so what sort of return could they expect, on the money that Leicester might want which is probably assumed £30-50m? I just don't think he's worth that.
 
Yeah, of course it is. He's done ok, but I still think he's overrated. He's a winger, with little defensive responsibility and they only play 1 up front, so the wingers and no 10 are expected to get goals (like ours, same formation), the same way that Tielemans and Maddison were meant to all chip in too, they all underperformed.

I don't think the team is bang average (well maybe it is bang average for the prem, in that it should have easily finished mid table). I just think they've massively underperformed, in all areas. They're probably the strongest squad to ever get relegated from the prem.

I think they just always thought they were going to get out of it, and they didn't face reality soon enough, and it was too late by then.

The point is what are Leicester going to value him at, and what will those clubs want to pay, and they can also look at a 100 other alternatives. If they get him on a 4 year contract he'll be 30, so what sort of return could they expect, on the money that Leicester might want which is probably assumed £30-50m? I just don't think he's worth that.

How is he overrated? He doesn't get in the England team so he's clearly not that well 'rated' and yet he's scored double figures from a wide position in a team that's just been relegated. The reason I called them bang average is because of that - they have been relegated. By fact, they've been one of the 3 worst teams in the league last season.

He's a midfielder/wide player who just bagged 13 goals in a relegated team and he's 25 years old (knocking on prime years), I'll be amazed if none of the bottom 10 teams in the league (barring Chelsea - for obvious reasons) refuse to take a punt on him.

He is far far too good for the Championship.

If he stays at Leicester this season, then they will have one of the best players in the league - of that I have no doubt.
 
How is he overrated? He doesn't get in the England team so he's clearly not that well 'rated' and yet he's scored double figures from a wide position in a team that's just been relegated. The reason I called the bang average is because of that - they have been relegated. By fact, they've been one of the 3 worst teams in the league last season.

He's a midfielder/wide player who just bagged 13 goals in a relegated team and he's 25 years old (knocking on prime years), I'll be amazed if none of the bottom 10 teams in the league (barring Chelsea - for obvious reasons) refuse to take a punt on him.

He is far far too good for the Championship.

If he stays at Leicester this season, then they will have one of the best players in the league - of that I have no doubt.
Southgate doesn't rate him as highly as the other options for England (like myself), that's why, which probably means he's not as good as those options etc, yet quite a few seem to talk about him like he is.

He plays the same position as Forss and Ramsay, they're not really "midfielders". I'd class Ramsay more of a Winger and Forss a forward, Barnes is more like a winger/ forward and he's often higher up the pitch than Tielemans and Maddison. barnes is more of a goalscorer but the other two are more creative etc.

I know what you meant by the term, but an "average" prem side should be good enough for mid-table, a team below average bottom half and a team well below average in relegation. The seasons prior they finished 9th, 9th, 5th, 5th and 8th, that's above average if anything, they just clearly got it horribly wrong, all over the pitch.

There are lots of players who play in the championship who are too good for it, same way as there's players playing in the prem who are not good enough for it. But of course, he would be one of the better players in the Championship, certainly. If he stayed along with some others) they would probably be highly likely to go up, but there would be others with similar output and stats, just like there is every year. Sarr and Pedro were meant to be too good for the Championship, and look what happened there, they both stayed and neither got in the team of the season, and Watford's side wasn't exactly bad either 2nd faves for promotion, behind Norwich).
 
Everyone goes on about how Leicester are the most expensive team to be relegated, but prices of players doesn't count for much if they don't perform. They need a big rebuild and would be foolish to offer 'prem' wages in the championship. i think they will struggle.

I fancy Leeds to do okay if they sort out their off field issues - a big IF. They can recruit and have a few decent younger players (whom were either in the prem squad or out on loan in the championship). They just need a decent manager.

Also expect Boro to be right up there, challenging for the autos .
 
Everyone goes on about how Leicester are the most expensive team to be relegated, but prices of players doesn't count for much if they don't perform. They need a big rebuild and would be foolish to offer 'prem' wages in the championship. i think they will struggle.

I fancy Leeds to do okay if they sort out their off field issues - a big IF. They can recruit and have a few decent younger players (whom were either in the prem squad or out on loan in the championship). They just need a decent manager.

Also expect Boro to be right up there, challenging for the autos .
You're right that it doesn't matter if they don't gel/ perform, albeit minor under-performance should still have had them safe. The club clearly has a wider problem why they massively underperformed.

But, it's also a shorthand of saying it's the most valuable team to be relegated from the Prem, and they are I think? That's the main shock of it, and I can't think of a higher ability squad which was relegated. Would be interested if anyone had some comparisons to other valuable relegated sides.
 
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Playoffs
Leeds
Stoke
Ipswich
Southampton

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