NorthumberlandBoro
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It wasn't a serious comment, though the original post was about action taken by the current government.
Care homes
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Lemmy_kilmister
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My wife has worked in the care sector for 15 odd years. While caring for dementia sufferers, assisted living for adults and kids with learning difficulties, she's been punched, kicked, scratched, spat at and abused by the residents she's caring for.
They deserve the highest of praise and way better pay and conditions. Most care homes are short staffed leading to staff working many hours overtime and picking up shifts often at extremely short notice.
They deserve the highest of praise and way better pay and conditions. Most care homes are short staffed leading to staff working many hours overtime and picking up shifts often at extremely short notice.
Corco65
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Apologies then, it read like a cheap sound bite against KS regarding a serious issue which has been around a very long time, were the can has been kicked down the road for a very long time by various governments.
NorthumberlandBoro
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No problem mate, I was really trying to take the p out if those using these type of silly sound bites (and failing miserably).
Having experienced both in laws passing away in care homes I know this is a very serious subject, and I should have kept away from the silly comments.
Corco65
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Sorry to hear that, let's hope someone sorts social care out soon and people who are paid carers get the respect and renumeration they deserve.
Archiestephens_elbow
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How come fagash and twice are on TV every day but never ed davey etc
Angelmatty
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You are being generous average weekly costs now for just residential is about 1500 any EMI and its close to 2k per week
The parties get the amount of representation that they should. Reform choose Farage or Tice every time and the other parties choose a range of people. It means that Farage is on screen way more than other individuals but their party isn't getting more exposure.
Farage isn't an idiot. He knows that he is the reason that people support them so he makes sure he is as visible as possible. He's a bellend but he knows how to play the game.
I am talking about rates in Middlesbrough that I am personally aware of. But it is absolutely shocking.
And I want the best caring staff and I do not care where those staff were born.
It is a really difficult and highly skilled job that is paid shockingly. So deeply shocking that politicians and people should be targeting those that care for the most vulnerable in our society.
And indirectly those they care for.
North22
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My daughter works part time in a care home alongside her nursing degree. She says she cant stick it much longer they are constantly short staffed. They get agency workers in to fill the gaps a lot who speak hardly any English and they don't care. The staff do very little to stimulate the residents. Also she has to go through about 25 training courses all for minimum wage.
Its a highly skilled job, carrying out tasks a lot of us on here would not want to do. They are also caring for and looking after people, usually in the final home before they pass. You also looking after people on behalf of families.
Yet the salary is pathetic, you could earn more working in Tesco without half of the stress that goes with the role of a carer.
My partners Grandma went into a home following a fall and broken hip. She was fortunate to have a large pot of savings and big pension coming in. That money will last her roughly 14 months for the care home she is in, we could get her an apartment in Chelsea for what she is paying and it wasn't even the most expensive.
You can add carer to a number of service like jobs where pay is way to low for the job entails and that is the problem. Its a specialist role and should be seen as such.
Yet the salary is pathetic, you could earn more working in Tesco without half of the stress that goes with the role of a carer.
My partners Grandma went into a home following a fall and broken hip. She was fortunate to have a large pot of savings and big pension coming in. That money will last her roughly 14 months for the care home she is in, we could get her an apartment in Chelsea for what she is paying and it wasn't even the most expensive.
You can add carer to a number of service like jobs where pay is way to low for the job entails and that is the problem. Its a specialist role and should be seen as such.
Lemmy_kilmister
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completely agree.
Most agency workers spend more time asleep during a night shift than doing anything.
And if you say anything to them they don't come back.
Exactly. Farage might be a tvvat but he knows what he's doing and he's always up for it. Want a quote? - ask Farage. Reform rep for Question Time? - NF will do it. The other parties will send the shadow undersecretary for arsescratching if the front bench don't fancy it. NF understands populism and he understands marketing. The other parties look like they're running a bowls club.
1finny
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Just wondering what the ‘serious’ issue is?
Is it what Kemi and Farage telll us?
Starmer’s answer, to stop the 60000 or so workers who support those who need care, doesn’t answer their problem.
It certainly creates problems - the only solution being to drive wages up.
I’m all for that but someone has to pay - and it’s not cheap.
There is an immigration problem which Starmer agreed he would take on with compassion.
Saying, ‘they are the reason we are a nation of strangers’ and they are have caused harm to our economy’ does what exactly?
Other than drive Division.
If people believe this stuff it’s best to vote Farage.
At least he is honest about it?
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RedAsABeetroot
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I'd agree that in terms of qualifications that they would qualify as lower-skilled, but the dedication and people skills to be a good/great carer are immense, and something few of us could achieve.
RedAsABeetroot
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Having been through something similar recently and seen the divide between the NHS in hospital care and further/palliative care in homes has convinced me that Andy Burnham was barking up the right tree. One body should manage health and care. I felt we got stuck in no man's land as the council wouldn't assign us a social worker, we slipped through the MacMillan net and the hospital just wanted shot of my father-in-law to free up a bed.
Pak_Doo_Ik
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His Island of Strangers comment will have been music to Fargea ears.
Immigration is an issue in this country but it not the biggest by a long chalk and can’t believe Starmer thinks that telling Reform voters what they want to hear is a good thing.
What happened to a Labour Party that stood for care and compassion, unity and understanding.
Once again Farage shouts the loudest and everybody falls in line, the country is gone!!!
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