Brexiwhingers

Why did many young still vote brexit and old vote remain?

I'm talking in broad trends as well you know.

We live in a country where 52% represents an overwhelming mandate and 44% gives you an 80 seat majority, so these broader trends probably count for something.

So now I've answered your question, have a go at mine rather than pearl clutching and patronising.
 
I'm talking in broad trends as well you know.

We live in a country where 52% represents an overwhelming mandate and 44% gives you an 80 seat majority, so these broader trends probably count for something.

So now I've answered your question, have a go at mine rather than pearl clutching and patronising.
No we don’t, you mention those that voted only. A fair number didn’t. 48% of the country were not remain as 52% were not pro brexit. Why did you not be clear on broad trends in your posts then?..... because it never suited your agenda and you are now attempting to play it down having been called out imho.
 
I'm talking in broad trends as well you know.

We live in a country where 52% represents an overwhelming mandate and 44% gives you an 80 seat majority, so these broader trends probably count for something.

So now I've answered your question, have a go at mine rather than pearl clutching and patronising.
It's safe to assume that you don't work in a care home.
 
Not in the slightest. You're using outliers to muddy the issues because you don't want to accept your votes have made life worse for do many. Hence the litany of embarrassing and weaselly posts.

You just won't accept that the last 12 years have been tough for younger people and exacerbated by Tory governments and Brexit. These were carried by older voters.

For whatever reason you think your demographic is beyond reproach. I've made crystal clear that it isn't.
 
Not in the slightest. You're using outliers to muddy the issues because you don't want to accept your votes have made life worse for do many. Hence the litany of embarrassing and weaselly posts.

You just won't accept that the last 12 years have been tough for younger people and exacerbated by Tory governments and Brexit. These were carried by older voters.

For whatever reason you think your demographic is beyond reproach. I've made crystal clear that it isn't.
12 years 😂

History wasn’t your academic study then 😂
 
Not in the slightest. You're using outliers to muddy the issues because you don't want to accept your votes have made life worse for do many. Hence the litany of embarrassing and weaselly posts.

You just won't accept that the last 12 years have been tough for younger people and exacerbated by Tory governments and Brexit. These were carried by older voters.

For whatever reason you think your demographic is beyond reproach. I've made crystal clear that it isn't.
Which other minorities do you think it's right to disimigrate against as well as the elderly?
 
The very old, those that actually fought in WW2, were very much in favour of staying in the EU because they appreciated the crucial role it played in avoiding another horrific European war.
The last time my dad left his house, on his own, aged 96, was to vote remain. Nearly finished him off. The neighbours found him struggling to get back in the house as he was too exhausted to get over the doorstep. He did it for exactly the reasons Lefty outlines above.
 
12 years 😂

History wasn’t your academic study then 😂

I imagine people like you - those insulated from the 2008 crash - wouldn't recognise it's significance. But it was quite important.

Your arrogance and disregard for those younger than you is absolutely staggering.
 
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It's safe to assume that you don't work in a care home.
This is astonishing. I'm saying older people (as a broad demographic, not every single individual,) vote selfishly and you're so thin skinned you think I want to take away their vote and now (I can only assume) accuse me of wishing them dead?

You and coluka are perfect examples of how coddled some people of your generation are.
 
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The last time my dad left his house, on his own, aged 96, was to vote remain. Nearly finished him off. The neighbours found him struggling to get back in the house as he was too exhausted to get over the doorstep. He did it for exactly the reasons Lefty outlines above.
Yes - I should say I have a bee in my bonnet about boomers in the main
 
Isn’t it in anyway significant that Rees-Mogg refuses to allow the Brexit Scrutiny Committee to sit.
Not just because it would monitor the current situation, but would demand that ministers would be obliged to issue projections for the short, medium and long term.
While there’s a huge increase in EU haulage companies and drivers just refusing to even enter the UK.
What is beginning to be obvious is the “They need us more than we need them” mantra is just what we knew it to be, especially that since we can’t feed the country without these trucks arriving daily.
This is not whinging...just an observation of the present and future reality.
 
If you start as you mean to go on, then Brexit is proving to be every bit the success I imagined it would be. :rolleyes:
 
It does look quite bad at the moment at custom borders and if not sorted very soon it will start to bite.

There was a story of a french lorry driver getting fined for overstaying at a lorry park in Kent whilst he was waiting for his paperwork back. Seems fair to me. He is going to talk to his mates, they aint gonna want to wait for hours or days, and get a fine, and if not sorted out we will end up with shortages.

All that said, this is not a purely brexit problem, it is the crappy government who have implemented it. Yes there were always going to be longer delays at borders, but it is an absoloute shambles. There is no "orderly queue", no strategy for improving things and, as far as I can see, no reall apetite to improve things.

The tories have had 5 years to sort this, and have done absoloutely nothing.

I am flummoxed.
 
The very old, those that actually fought in WW2, were very much in favour of staying in the EU because they appreciated the crucial role it played in avoiding another horrific European war.
What about their children ?

I will never join the Brexit debate again. My mum and dad would definitely voted to leave, they always thought it was a German capitalist toy. They voted against joining and I know for certain they agreed with Corbyn and the lefts view.

However I concede that you know the voting intentions of the very old and will bring out a graph to prove it.
 
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What about their children ?

I will never join the Brexit debate again. My mum and dad would definitely voted to leave, they always thought it was a German capitalist toy. They voted against joining and I know for certain they agreed with Corbyn and the lefts view.

However I concede that you know the voting intentions of the very old and will bring out a graph to prove it.

I think Best For Britain had some numbers on it, but I might be wrong. Certainly I saw a number of WW2 veterans and whatever their feelings for the Germans, they were all in no doubt that the EU had helped avoid the misery and loss of the two previous World Wars ever being repeated and for that overwhelming reason, as people who had lived through it, seen the death and destruction and felt the loss and damage directly, they felt our membership was a good thing.

It is different for the children of that generation, even those who lived through the War. As a child you have a different perspective. You are sheltered and protected from a lot and what you aren't protected from you don't appreciate isn't normal as much as adults who have greater frames of reference.

As for not joining the Brexit debate, a lot of it is pointless, although it is important for lessons to be learned and analysing what each side were wrong about and why. Mind you, it was was predicted how, post brexit, Leave voters would go missing as the consequences unfolded.
 
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It does look quite bad at the moment at custom borders and if not sorted very soon it will start to bite.

There was a story of a french lorry driver getting fined for overstaying at a lorry park in Kent whilst he was waiting for his paperwork back. Seems fair to me. He is going to talk to his mates, they aint gonna want to wait for hours or days, and get a fine, and if not sorted out we will end up with shortages.

Already happening: Absolute carnage': EU hauliers reject UK jobs over Brexit rules
 
Coca Cola moved its headquarters to the Netherlands and mining giant Berkeley to Spain this month, explicitly because of Brexit.

Not been reported by the British media though has it?
 
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