Brexit deal gives Nissan a competitive advantage..

DearChicago

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The ‘competitive advantage’ they claim is that their costs will only increase slightly, knowing their UK based competition BMW Oxford etc. will get stung by ‘rules of origin’ (engines come from Brazil) etc.
Arguing this won’t be as bad as it could have been really isn’t a win for anyone, to dress it up as one is strange.
 

Lefty

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What I feel about this is simply 'relief'. It's nothing to be 'triumphant' about since it is being triumphant about something carrying on that would have carried on anyway. Things need to be taken in the round. What does the rest of the deal mean.

'Under the Brexit deal, carmakers in the UK can avoid tariffs when selling to the EU if enough parts come from either market. Nissan also believes it has an advantage when selling to UK customers, as cars from rivals are likely to become less competitive because of non-tariff barriers leading to price rises.'

That quote, lifted from the FT, makes it quite clear the deal is not going to be as good for other car manufacturers.

'Vauxhall’s parent company this week warned investment at its Ellesmere Port site in Cheshire was at risk because of Brexit costs and Britain’s planned phasing out of new petrol-only car sales by 2030.'

So, if Brexit was a good decision, we should not only find we retain things, but we gain things.
 
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FartingGnome

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I'm sure we were told by remainers that they would run away though... 🤔

Let's face it, it's great news and I'll watch as people twist it so that it isn't
Read the words, they themselves said that they would probably leave in the event of the no deal brexit as favoured by Rees-Moggentrop and his wannabe Goebbels pal Gove.

So (a) you're wrong and, er, (b) you're wrong. Wel done. It's not good news, it's just not bad news.
 

Lefty

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EU issues with vaccine...

This could have included the UK.

This is one of the upsides to leaving the EU that I thought the Brexit campaigns could have made more of, but strangely didn't.

There are some advantages to being a smaller entity. You can be more dynamic and react quicker to events and changes in an environment. Larger organisations can be unwieldy, especially when it has to juggle a lot of competing interests. In theory the smaller entity can make quicker choices specifically tailored to it's own requirements.
 

BaronSmoggie

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Chris, I admire your positivity, but really, you should be wiping your brow and saying "Phew, thank goodness the remainers were wrong on this one and we don't lose any jobs". But recognise that no jobs have been created from this decision.
That article is light on content, but what Nissan are happy about is that they are looking at bringing battery production to the UK, which they state will create new jobs. It also means the percentage of the car made in the UK is over the threshold for being tariff free. That is what they mean by a competitive advantage over people like BMW. Its good news for Nissan, and if the jobs come to fruition, then it is a bit of positive news post Brexit.
 

SmallTown

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Trug sums it up, we’ll celebrate something that would have been safe anyway.

I genuinely hope we keep on with your version of winning i.e. not losing things we already had.
To be fair the Nissan number two said brexit has allowed them to redefine their business in Europe. So whichever way you spin it this IS a brexit good news story. Directly and clearly from the company themselves. Plus its happening in the North East so a double win.
 

DearChicago

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To be fair the Nissan number two said brexit has allowed them to redefine their business in Europe. So whichever way you spin it this IS a brexit good news story. Directly and clearly from the company themselves. Plus its happening in the North East so a double win.
It’s a pretty neutral news story hence my response. Nissan will be better placed than most (if not all) in that sector. But as the Vauxhall story indicates the worry is they’ll be the exception.

Good news would be more jobs and inward investment as a direct result of Brexit; Nissan have not announced that (unless I’ve missed it and I’ll stand corrected). Until they do it’s hardly good news, just not bad.

*😬 I should have read comments before yours regarding batteries, if this is a direct result of Brexit it is indeed good news if it happens. Hopefully won’t be counter balanced by job loses elsewhere in the industry.
 
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