Blackout across Spain and Portgual

Latest from Beeb. Could it be that some people are jumping the gun here and it isn't anything to do with green technology? I mean if it's to do with the electricity coming from France, well France have the majority of their electricity form Nuclear.

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To say there's no green solution to lack of inertia in a grid is kind of not true is it?


Hell I've got about 69KWh Sat on my drive ready to pump back into the grid right now if it's just load balancing we need.
Like in Spain yesterday?
 
To say there's no green solution to lack of inertia in a grid is kind of not true is it?


Hell I've got about 69KWh Sat on my drive ready to pump back into the grid right now if it's just load balancing we need.
Which it isn’t, it’s being able to manage it with a fragile grid prone to surges which is inherent to that green tech you thinks so brilliant.

What science book was it you read that in?
 
Which it isn’t, it’s being able to manage it with a fragile grid prone to surges which is inherent to that green tech you thinks so brilliant.

What science book was it you read that in?
A grid prone to surges. So it needs balancing then? Interesting.

I guess syiure ignoring the energy storage bit. Doesn't fit your argument I guess. Sorry for bringing facts
 
So why the "But china" thing? Are you nto part of mankind? Do you not want to do you bit. I assume given you like to throw petty insults around on a provincial football clubs forum, that you don't have the ear of Xi Jinping to influence? So, what are you doing, as part of mankind, to combat climate change? Set the example we all need.
Do not misquote me, i never said ‘but China’

However, i listed several countries and states that are doing little if anything to slow down the rate of increase that are responsible for 2/3rds of global emissions, I pointed to you the facts that the UK is responsible for little in comparison. I never once said people shouldn’t do what they can, you interpreted comments quite wrongly. The vast majority of the UK will be unable to afford to do much like buy an EV, solar panels, ineffective heat pumps, property insulation, all midst a cost of living crisis. The Government doesn’t have a pot to pi$$ in and will likely increase taxation to just get by, thanks to one of the national leaders and his tariffs. Many that create emissions, create personal and national wealth by doing so, they do not care a jot about climate change as it wont affect them in whats left of their lives too negatively, or so they assume.

You wanted to know what I am personally doing, well, I am holidaying in the UK this year, recycling my waste as required, property is reasonably insulated, the thermostat was down 2 degrees over winter, I walk more and drive less, I tend to use public transport rather than drive distances over 50 mile one way. I pay my taxes to help others, shop for 2 elderly neighbours who occasionally come round to visit on a weekend, to help them save on their heating bills despite the fact she is a Chelsea fan. I eat less beef and look for ethical clothing where i can and buy stuff from charity shops on occasion. It may not be lots but like many people, I do what is practical and currently affordable. Many are not as lucky as I consider I am, nor as well educated, but that isn’t necessarily their fault. Richer people like those that are lucky enough to afford EV’s, solar panels, new heat pumps and the like should spare a thought for those without the means to plan ahead and some should help others less fortunate more than they probably do, a little help goes a long way if done with kindness and care.
 
I can understand your pain when you’ve wasted the money you have on a fools errand.
It's saved me a fortune.

So yes, it's pretty clear, you are our usual RW political instigator, who turns up, spouts nonsense in these bad faith debates, where you answer nothing, you don't bat straight. Then you get banned, and then come back with another user name. I'm out, it's an exercise in futility debating with someone who lacks the intellectual honesty and ideological prejudices that you have already shown. Easy Ban
 
It's saved me a fortune.

So yes, it's pretty clear, you are our usual RW political instigator, who turns up, spouts nonsense in these bad faith debates, where you answer nothing, you don't bat straight. Then you get banned, and then come back with another user name. I'm out, it's an exercise in futility debating with someone who lacks the intellectual honesty and ideological prejudices that you have already shown. Easy Ban
Yeah it's only a matter of time before the ban happens then he reappears as someone else. When you think about it it's kind of tragic to keep truing up to a pub you're barred from. I feel sad for him sometimes
 
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One of the nastiest threads I’ve read for a while this one.

Apropos of nothing China accounted for over 50% of the global growth in wind and solar energy production in 2024.

though if there are any genuine electrical infrastructure engineers on here I’d be delighted to read their view on the issues facing the U.K. current electricity distribution infrastructure due to the increase in solar and wind causing load variations which the system wasn’t set up for and potential solutions, such as building more water pumping systems to reduce overloading.
 
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