Bet you don’t boast about the bets you lose.

Over the years I have certainly lost more than I have won.

If we were serious about tackling gambling addiction in this country banning shirt sponsorship is by far and away the easiest step (especially shirt sponsorship from a company that has just been fined for failing to protect its customers).

Secondly if we are to continue to allow adverts for everything from bingo to lotteries then these should be forced to show people losing and not just selling dreams.

Gambling can be fun for the majority of people but can also can bring life ending stress and trauma.
 
Over the years I have certainly lost more than I have won.

If we were serious about tackling gambling addiction in this country banning shirt sponsorship is by far and away the easiest step (especially shirt sponsorship from a company that has just been fined for failing to protect its customers).

Secondly if we are to continue to allow adverts for everything from bingo to lotteries then these should be forced to show people losing and not just selling dreams.

Gambling can be fun for the majority of people but can also can bring life ending stress and trauma.
Couldn't agree more.
 
As someone who likes a flutter on the 🐎🐎 from time to time, I would support the campaign, although to what degree it encourages gambling still has me sceptical It is a significant cause of the misery, but I can see it may reinforce misery.

I agree adverts selling lifetime luxuries like Lottery millions and Omaze houses etc are worrying trends. Omaze now encourage signing up on direct debit by offering more entries ffs, the lottery allows DD too, plain wrong for me.

Online gambling is huge for every Merson and JLloyd Samuel, there are a 1000 Joe Bloggs trying to make ends meet on a pittance of a salary who think a bit of luck is all thats needed.

I had the misfortune to watch a fella walk into a betfred shop during Cheltenham week. He went straight up to a slots machine and put £260 cash in £20 notes straight in so he could play at £2 per game. 11 minutes later he left empty handed. He was replaced by another bloke who had been watching, no doubt thinking a win was due on it. He put £50 in, then another £50 and a final 3rd £50. Just 8 mins later he was done and walked out. Those slot machines are a means of legalised theft from the gullible, the vulnerable and the desperate. I suspect without them, betting shops would disappear in their droves. I suspect they make far more money for the bookmakers than any profits from horse racing, dog racing or footy bets. These machines seem to be the biggest issue and source of gambling misery that I have witnessed and need banning.
 
As someone who likes a flutter on the 🐎🐎 from time to time, I would support the campaign, although to what degree it encourages gambling still has me sceptical It is a significant cause of the misery, but I can see it may reinforce misery.

I agree adverts selling lifetime luxuries like Lottery millions and Omaze houses etc are worrying trends. Omaze now encourage signing up on direct debit by offering more entries ffs, the lottery allows DD too, plain wrong for me.

Online gambling is huge for every Merson and JLloyd Samuel, there are a 1000 Joe Bloggs trying to make ends meet on a pittance of a salary who think a bit of luck is all thats needed.

I had the misfortune to watch a fella walk into a betfred shop during Cheltenham week. He went straight up to a slots machine and put £260 cash in £20 notes straight in so he could play at £2 per game. 11 minutes later he left empty handed. He was replaced by another bloke who had been watching, no doubt thinking a win was due on it. He put £50 in, then another £50 and a final 3rd £50. Just 8 mins later he was done and walked out. Those slot machines are a means of legalised theft from the gullible, the vulnerable and the desperate. I suspect without them, betting shops would disappear in their droves. I suspect they make far more money for the bookmakers than any profits from horse racing, dog racing or footy bets. These machines seem to be the biggest issue and source of gambling misery that I have witnessed and need banning.
I don't think it creates the addiction, it just creates the next cohort of gamblers, some of whom will go on and become addicted.

Those with a natural love of a sport and like a flutter will still continue to do that without the advertising, and some will, undoubtedly go on and develop an addiction, but it will be less people.

We don't allow smoking adverts anymore, I may be wrong but we don't see alcohol sponsors of sports either.
 
I really would prefer it if advertising of gambling was banned. No messing around - a blanket ban just like smoking. Whilst for many an innocent flutter every now and again is OK, there are too many people who are addicted, and when you watch football you are absolutely inundated with gambling adverts.
 
As someone who likes a flutter on the 🐎🐎 from time to time, I would support the campaign, although to what degree it encourages gambling still has me sceptical It is a significant cause of the misery, but I can see it may reinforce misery.

I agree adverts selling lifetime luxuries like Lottery millions and Omaze houses etc are worrying trends. Omaze now encourage signing up on direct debit by offering more entries ffs, the lottery allows DD too, plain wrong for me.

Online gambling is huge for every Merson and JLloyd Samuel, there are a 1000 Joe Bloggs trying to make ends meet on a pittance of a salary who think a bit of luck is all thats needed.

I had the misfortune to watch a fella walk into a betfred shop during Cheltenham week. He went straight up to a slots machine and put £260 cash in £20 notes straight in so he could play at £2 per game. 11 minutes later he left empty handed. He was replaced by another bloke who had been watching, no doubt thinking a win was due on it. He put £50 in, then another £50 and a final 3rd £50. Just 8 mins later he was done and walked out. Those slot machines are a means of legalised theft from the gullible, the vulnerable and the desperate. I suspect without them, betting shops would disappear in their droves. I suspect they make far more money for the bookmakers than any profits from horse racing, dog racing or footy bets. These machines seem to be the biggest issue and source of gambling misery that I have witnessed and need banning.
The mad thing is those slots have such low RTP rates compared to the online versions of the games, some are like 70% RTP vs 90% online
 
As a gambling addict, I would support this campaign. Most compulsive gamblers will be able to track their early interest in gambling back to childhood. Having gambling advertising around children is just wrong in my opinion. Football is a sport for all, not just adults.

In my case, I don't think the shirt advertisements spark any gambling relapses, but they do make me aware of new places to gamble. I have set restrictions on most gambling sites but new sites are set up all the time and find their way onto football shirts etc.

I think a bigger problem is the amount of adverts on the TV when watching sport, especially the ones that flash up live odds.
 
if something needs done the government need to do it, they should simply blanket ban all forms of gambling advertisement except in specific gambling areas etc, so racing post that's a fair place for an advertisement, on websites relating to gambling or gambling topics that's fair also, social media, regular publications, sports teams etc make that a no. same with lottery and bingo, if its relevant to the place it is to be advertised and the intended audience is suitable then fine, if not then tough, enough people know how to find them if they want to.

but has to come from the government so businesses receiving sponsorships do not loose out as much as they would taking moral high ground and refusing the business

as if some refuse but others don't then all that will mean is the betting companies just offer more money until someone else bites

if you take it off the cards in a set amount of years then that option is gone, and other business types that may be interested in sponsoring or advertising will rise in price of their offers over time as it works for these new players in the market

probably mean everyone's getting sponsored by take away delivery services etc I reckon so may open new cans of worms for the woke people to be outraged at obesity promotion instead, but these people will always find something to bitch about lol
 
As someone who has regularly backed horses for nigh on 40 years I totally endorse a blanket ban on all gambling advertising, same with alcohol and cigarettes, anything that encourages behaviours liable to cause addiction should not be advertised.

It's ok saying that millions of people will not be affected by these adverts but what about the thousands that are ? We have to look after the most not the least vulnerable.

The insidious infiltration of gambling into football and other sports is dangerous and creates a culture of dependency, when I started gambling in the 80's the idea of betting on anything other than horses and dogs was niche, now you have the Championship sponsored by a betting firm.
 
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As someone who has regularly backed horses for nigh on 40 years I totally endorse a blanket ban on all gambling advertising, same with alcohol and cigarettes, anything that encourages behaviours liable to cause addiction should not be advertised.

It's ok saying that millions of people will not be affected by these adverts but what about the thousands that are ? We have to look after the most not the least vulnerable.

The insidious infiltration of gambling into football and other sports is dangerous and creates a culture of dependency, when I started gambling in the 80's the idea of betting on anything other than horses and dogs was niche, now you have
the Championship sponsored by a betting firm.
I don't have any figures AM, but I would think the UK has millions of problem gamblers.
 
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I don't have any figures AM, but I would think the UK has millions of problem gamblers.
It would definitely affect millions of people. Because for every problem gambler you have a web of people who are affected by their behaviour.
 
As a gambling addict, I would support this campaign. Most compulsive gamblers will be able to track their early interest in gambling back to childhood. Having gambling advertising around children is just wrong in my opinion. Football is a sport for all, not just adults.

In my case, I don't think the shirt advertisements spark any gambling relapses, but they do make me aware of new places to gamble. I have set restrictions on most gambling sites but new sites are set up all the time and find their way onto football shirts etc.

I think a bigger problem is the amount of adverts on the TV when watching sport, especially the ones that flash up live odds.
do they have a site to block you from all sites? that would be a real way forward if they all had to have a register and you could place yourself on it

or every site you place yourself on gets reported back to this site automatically and then if you do sign up to new sites then as part of the sign up it comes up advising you that you have restricted yourself previously with other sites and this may not be a good idea to register

if you had done it on multiple sites, that could be a flag that its probably not in your best interests to let you sign up to another site.
it could even put a week cooling off period that blocks you from using it after registering where after the week you then have a week's window to confirm your registration that you still want to go ahead with it to be able to use it and then you can if you agree, and if not it will be deleted and need to apply again and go through the same process. Maybe they could make it so you needed to make a phone call to speak to someone and be assessed after the week cooling off before its activated.

they all bang on about responsible gaming, but if there isnt a national system setup that they all link up with then I think they should be as it could be used to flag who have registered as addicts then you would never be able to out smart them at weak points and go with a new site
 
It would definitely affect millions of people. Because for every problem gambler you have a web of people who are affected by their behaviour.
You are right, but I was specifically talking about the addict. As I say, I don't have any figures, but when you see 50 million turnbing over on a single race on betfair, it suggests lots of people have a problem. They may still be functioning, but it can effect your life without bankrupting you.
 
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I had the misfortune to watch a fella walk into a betfred shop during Cheltenham week. He went straight up to a slots machine and put £260 cash in £20 notes straight in so he could play at £2 per game. 11 minutes later he left empty handed. He was replaced by another bloke who had been watching, no doubt thinking a win was due on it. He put £50 in, then another £50 and a final 3rd £50. Just 8 mins later he was done and walked out.

I used to love playing the bandits in the pubs with 'loose change' when the jackpots were £10-15 pound as you could win a jackpot quite regularly and it passed the time away.

Once note dispensers were introduced and jackpots went up and up these machines suddenly became more like social club machines and just ate your money (as described above) and very rarely paid anything out.

Thats when the 'fun stopped' for me and i can honestly say i havent touched a bandit for years. Years ago i'd walk into a pub and my first reaction would be to see which bandit was currently in that pub as i had my favourites.
 
do they have a site to block you from all sites? that would be a real way forward if they all had to have a register and you could place yourself on it
They do have checks now, and anyone who has opened an account regularly will know that you now have to send ID to get it verified before you can deposit (I think). A lot of the sites are owned by the same group as well so if you self exclude from one, you will be excluded from them all.

But obviously some brands are more responsible than others and once you have self excluded from your main bookmakers (Ladbrokes, Coral, Paddy Power, Bet365 etc) and you start venturing further afield, you tend to encounter the less responsible ones like (888.com, 32red.com etc).

I have all the controls in place, software on phone, computer etc to block access to the sites, restrictions on bank cards etc. But when your a bad compulsive gambler, and you decide to gamble, you'll find a way.
 
yeah thats why I thought they should use the net and make a national data base, sending id is just for money laundering I reckon and to avoid duplicate accounts,

if used a national database for it then it could help people who work against themselves who took the initial steps.

although always has to come from the government as the betting companies arnt going to be the ones to reduce their own customer base lol

they always find ways around things, like when they got limits to how many gambling machines they were allowed to put in their bookies they just started opening multiple shops in the same street, was kinda happy that it caught up with them during covid and cost them more for that greed lol, then they limited the max bets so all them extra branches surprise surprise closed down
 
I used to love playing the bandits in the pubs with 'loose change' when the jackpots were £10-15 pound as you could win a jackpot quite regularly and it passed the time away.

Once note dispensers were introduced and jackpots went up and up these machines suddenly became more like social club machines and just ate your money (as described above) and very rarely paid anything out.

Thats when the 'fun stopped' for me and i can honestly say i havent touched a bandit for years. Years ago i'd walk into a pub and my first reaction would be to see which bandit was currently in that pub as i had my favourites.
I remember where it stopped being fun for me, i put 5a in betfair poker and grafted it up on heads up tables to £60, then put it all on us to beat Seville in the uefa final, was well ***ed off, never liked betting ever since then hahaha

when I told my brother he was like there was no way you were going to win that match, id of took the bet for triple the odds if ya said lol
 
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