atypical_boro
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Can’t believe we didn’t put a sell on clause in…….Hat trick hero today. And top scorer in France. What could have been…View attachment 52041
Can’t believe we didn’t put a sell on clause in…….Hat trick hero today. And top scorer in France. What could have been…View attachment 52041
He has had success in the past tbf. But then again so has Jose Mourinho, far more so, and even he seems to have come to the end of the road.Balogun would be far better playing in our team now with MC style of play. How wilder was asking him to play was not his style at all. Looking back how were we so fooled by Wilder?
I stuggle to blame Wilder for either to be honest. I thought he gave Connolly plenty of chance to play his way out of his poor goalscoring form as he was doing the job he wanted in terms of chasing around and pressing, certainly earlier on anyway.I never thought Connolly was as bad as was often made out. He had pace and looked very direct, he wasn’t a great finisher but that comes from confidence. Largely made a scapegoat for our sudden dip in form but I think we now know that was a lot more to do with Wilder.
Balogun, as above, looked decent until Wilder inexplicably dropped him and seemed to dent his confidence too. Maybe neither player will become world beaters but I’m certain we didn’t see the best of them during their time here in what was a fairly toxic situation. No wonder Connolly started looking for other outlets for his frustration.
Was chatting to a Blade the other night for ages at a wedding, and he said my Wilder/Boro story sounds so familiar to him in terms of what happened at SUFC. He said he’s actually not a big fan of him either, despite the good work he did.
I think every manager has a shelf life, both at a club and then overall.He has had success in the past tbf. But then again so has Jose Mourinho, far more so, and even he seems to have come to the end of the road.
It depends what you mean. We weren't fooled football wise, he's a manager with a track record of promotion who also had an instant impact with us and we massively improved following his arrival. Even when we wobbled a bit around Easter/Burnley onwards we were still better than under Warnock. What he does appear to be though is a manager who needs everything to work the way he wants, and isn't afraid of promoting himself for other jobs.Balogun would be far better playing in our team now with MC style of play. How wilder was asking him to play was not his style at all. Looking back how were we so fooled by Wilder?
Fair enough, am sure he's divisive there.I stuggle to blame Wilder for either to be honest. I thought he gave Connolly plenty of chance to play his way out of his poor goalscoring form as he was doing the job he wanted in terms of chasing around and pressing, certainly earlier on anyway.
Balogun looked decent but for me lacked that desire to get himself on the ball and really hunt out goals. I'd imagine the French league suits him, proboably a bit less hectic thatn the championship.
For a bit of blalance, my Sheff Utd supporting colleagues loved Wilder.
Once other teams figured out how we played he didn’t seem to have any answer to that. He kept blaming players rather than his system. I may be wrong but I can’t imagine MC coming out and blasting his own players. Right or wrong I think that should be kept behind closed doors.It depends what you mean. We weren't fooled football wise, he's a manager with a track record of promotion who also had an instant impact with us and we massively improved following his arrival. Even when we wobbled a bit around Easter/Burnley onwards we were still better than under Warnock. What he does appear to be though is a manager who needs everything to work the way he wants, and isn't afraid of promoting himself for other jobs.
I think that was the root cause this season, the narrative on here that he is clueless from a football perspective doesn't really add up to me.
i don't really but the "figuring out" stuff. You know how most opponents are going to play, it doesn't take months to figure it out, it's right to have a system and philosopy. People will say the same when we have a bad patch under Carrick. I think the spirit in the camp suffered as Wilder's outlook changed and was the causes of our issuesOnce other teams figured out how we played he didn’t seem to have any answer to that. He kept blaming players rather than his system. I may be wrong but I can’t imagine MC coming out and blasting his own players. Right or wrong I think that should be kept behind closed doors.
Wilder is far from universally popular with Sheff Utd fans.I stuggle to blame Wilder for either to be honest. I thought he gave Connolly plenty of chance to play his way out of his poor goalscoring form as he was doing the job he wanted in terms of chasing around and pressing, certainly earlier on anyway.
Balogun looked decent but for me lacked that desire to get himself on the ball and really hunt out goals. I'd imagine the French league suits him, proboably a bit less hectic thatn the championship.
For a bit of blalance, my Sheff Utd supporting colleagues loved Wilder.
I think the problem with signing very promising young players is you are on their path of development. He had his first real league experience under us and wherever he went next would really benefit from that. Probably better for him that he made that step up to the French top flight - then next season he should be challenging for Arsenal first team. He was learning on the road with Boro. How could he be the finished product.Balagon on the other hand clearly had talent and Wilder chose to waste it.