Are the Government massaging the death rate.
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Billy Horner
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Except, of course, the ONS has already published analyses of excess deaths during the pandemic, which acknowledged that there were a significant proportion that weren't Covid-related. It's hardly sweeping it under the carpet if the government's own statistical service is publishing reports on the subject!
Still, let's not allow the truth to get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
Randy
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I think his point was more to do with the fact it hasn't been discussed in public.
Nothing he reported is conspiracy.
Billy Horner
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But his opening line is "The anomaly in weekly deaths that has been swept under the carpet". So he's claiming that it is information which has not been highlighted by anyone in government or, worse still, has been suppressed.
That's a conspiracy theory and, like most such theories, is completely unsupported by the evidence.
Randy
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Of course it's been suppressed by the media.
Because the only issues we've been told in the media were and are deaths with covid and excess deaths with covid all mentioned on death certificates.
Every other cause of death has been put on the shelf and forgotten about. If excess people aren't dying of anything other than covid the media don't care. That you cannot deny.
Billy Horner
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Do you mean suppressed by the media like this:
Lockdown UK: 'Thousands' of excess deaths during coronavirus
Experts said the UK Government's 'stay at home' message scared people into staying away from hospital, even when they desperately needed medical help - resulting in 2,085 'excess deaths'.
Or this:
Coronavirus: hidden toll 25,000 extra deaths at home since virus
LEADING health charities, doctors and grieving parents have demanded action after figures revealed a shocking rise in people dying at home in the pandemic. Official statistics yesterday showed there were almost 25,000 excess deaths in private homes in England between March and September, with...
www.express.co.uk
Or this:
More than 26,000 excess deaths in private homes since March
Figures from the Office for National Statistics show since March there have been 26,000 excess deaths from coronavirus in England and Wales - at 85,400 - compared to an expected level of 59,000.
Or perhaps suppressed by the government like this:
Excess mortality in England and English regions
Analysis estimating excess mortality during the COVID-19 pandemic by factors including age, sex, ethnicity, cause of death, deprivation and place of death.
Yes, I think your Twitter friend is onto a real scoop here...
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Billy Horner
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Two further deaths announced by South Tees NHS Trust, taking total to 359.
Two further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 252.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are joint 15th (from 15th yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the joint 73rd (from 73rd yesterday) in the country.
Two further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 252.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are joint 15th (from 15th yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the joint 73rd (from 73rd yesterday) in the country.
Billy Horner
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Latest rates per 100,000 population (as at 30th November) [rate from 7 days earlier as a comparison]:
Hambleton - 79.7 [127.7]
Hartlepool - 269.0 [315.0]
Middlesbrough - 173.1 [273.8]
R&C - 142.9 [255.2]
Stockton - 194.0 [291.4]
Billy Horner
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One further death announced by South Tees NHS Trust, taking total to 360.
Three further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 255.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are 16th (from joint 15th yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the 74th (from joint 73rd yesterday) in the country.
Three further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 255.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are 16th (from joint 15th yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the 74th (from joint 73rd yesterday) in the country.
Billy Horner
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Latest rates per 100,000 population (as at 1st December) [rate from 7 days earlier as a comparison]:
Hambleton - 73.2 [119.0]
Hartlepool - 247.7 [285.1]
Middlesbrough - 173.1 [239.7]
R&C - 137.8 [231.1]
Stockton - 175.3 [275.1]
Billy Horner
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No further deaths announced by South Tees NHS Trust, total remaining at 360.
No further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, total remaining at 255.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are 16th (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the 74th (same as yesterday) in the country.
No further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, total remaining at 255.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are 16th (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the 74th (same as yesterday) in the country.
Billy Horner
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Latest rates per 100,000 population (as at 2nd December) [rate from 7 days earlier as a comparison]:
Hambleton - 65.5 [111.3]
Hartlepool - 237.0 [276.5]
Middlesbrough - 173.1 [221.3]
R&C - 126.2 [193.9]
Stockton - 159.6 [249.8]
r00fie1
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UK records 17,272 new COVID cases and 231 new deaths
The United Kingdom recorded 17,272 new cases of COVID-19 on Sunday, up from 15,539 a day earlier and raising the total number of infections since the start of the pandemic to over 1.723 million, official data showed.
uk.reuters.com
The country also recorded 231 deaths from the disease, down from 397 a day earlier, taking the total toll measured by the number of deaths within 28 days of a positive test to 61,245.
Billy Horner
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No further deaths announced by South Tees NHS Trust, total remaining at 360.
Three further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 258.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are 16th (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the 74th (same as yesterday) in the country.
Three further deaths announced by North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, taking total to 258.
South Tees NHS Trust are 10th highest (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region (out of 31 NHS Trusts) and the 42nd highest (same as yesterday) in the country (out of 221 NHS Trusts in England).
North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust are 16th (same as yesterday) in terms of number of deaths in the North East & Yorkshire region and the 74th (same as yesterday) in the country.
Billy Horner
Well-known member
Latest rates per 100,000 population (as at 3rd December) [rate from 7 days earlier as a comparison]:
Hambleton - 63.4 [109.1]
Hartlepool - 234.9 [267.9]
Middlesbrough - 170.9 [207.9]
R&C - 126.1 [163.3]
Stockton - 158.6 [229.6]