Appleby horse fair and travellers

Ian Bairds Ears

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Some pictures out this morning of the usual carnage left behind.!and multiple arrests
It's such a shame
Appleby residents must get sick
I was reading some reviews of flamingo land caravan site as well where a families young child was given a black eye buy a traveller child over a football and that they had been leaving poo behind in the communal shower!!! All the adults were using f and c word with their own kids and others kids...I would literally explode if that happened to my kids

Wtf

It just infuriates me that a chunk of travellers leave such a bad impression in people's minds
Thefts assaults causing chew to the locals pretty much relentlessly
I'm starting to think are society doing Enough to provide facilities ...but then again why the f@@@@ should tax payers have to foot the bill for people who choose not to pay contributions
I know its a long term issue but some of these documentaries are eye opening
Try the Ed Stafford one that's interesting
 
i remember years ago on the end of ingleby barwick on the way to yarm, the council put in showers, toilets etc.
Within weeks, the plumbing had all been ripped out (weighed in for scrap i presume) and all the tiles off the roof were gone... rubbish everywhere. leaves a bad taste in the mouth when you actually provide facilities and this is how they repay people...
 
My brother in law has a lovely place heading towards stokesley . There is about a half an acre piece of land that joins his property and also the main road to Stokesley that he has been trying to find out for years who owns it. A few weeks ago a for sale sign appeared. That same day he had three sets of gypsies turn up, all climbing over his fence and shouting him to talk to you about the land. They asked him if they could tap into his electricity and water or put a gate in his fence if they bought the land so they could have access for their horses. When he said of course not they said “look mate we can do this the easy way or the hard way, you can work with us or else”

It’s really stressing them out and so he has had to place a full asking price bid for a massively overinflated piece of land to try and avoid it being snapped up by them.

I’m sure some of thEm are nice just not the ones he encountered
 
My brother in law has a lovely place heading towards stokesley . There is about a half an acre piece of land that joins his property and also the main road to Stokesley that he has been trying to find out for years who owns it. A few weeks ago a for sale sign appeared. That same day he had three sets of gypsies turn up, all climbing over his fence and shouting him to talk to you about the land. They asked him if they could tap into his electricity and water or put a gate in his fence if they bought the land so they could have access for their horses. When he said of course not they said “look mate we can do this the easy way or the hard way, you can work with us or else”

It’s really stressing them out and so he has had to place a full asking price bid for a massively overinflated piece of land to try and avoid it being snapped up by them.

I’m sure some of thEm are nice just not the ones he encountered
maybe the visitors have friends who own the land and are jacking the price up due to fear ....
 
Try living in Darlo. They do whatever they want with no action from the police.
They are an interesting bunch, some of them are really good guys and would do anything for you, I know this as I have quite a few friends in that community. However they also have a sizeable element that think the law doesn’t apply to them and they can do what they want. One to ponder though is the behaviour any worse than what you find in some of the rougher areas in Teesside from the locals. The main difference just seems to be they have money and the lack of engagement by youth in education the common denominator.
 
I actually lived right in the middle of them in Darlo- the older ones were ok but anyone younger tan 40 seemed to think they owned the town. I have seen them smash Arden Street club to pieces, police called, all put in the paddy van and taken away and back in the club within the hour. They all have new 4x4's and new caravans on their drives. Ask them where they work, the answer is always "I do a bit for my brother/cousin etc". They deal only in cash, block roads for their chariot/horse racing and funerals with impunity.
In Barnard Castle I overheard a farmers wife saying that the travellers had camped on their land after threatening to burn down their barn.
Generally when they are fighting it is usually among themselves but if you argue with one of them they all stick together.
 
I've never known anyone to have had a good experience with them. Whenever they do, like above, any positives have to be caveated with but x, y & z. There is trouble wherever they go. They obviously pay no tax and then consume a disproportionate amount of public resources in policing and accommodating them. Police seem powerless to stop them.

I had a friend who had a group turn up on a field near their house and stayed for a few months. They mostly kept themselves to themselves as long as you didn't go on their field but there was a spate of burglaries on the surrounding estate while they were there and the field had to be condemned when they left because there was faeces everywhere. That seems to be the standard run of events.

I don't know what the answer is because they don't seem to want anything so it's not like it is just failed negotiations. I just feel sorry for anyone that is unlucky enough to have them turn up on their doorstep.
 
I think people's perception of travellers is bad, as we tend to only really notice the bad.
This is true. Many years ago three travellers tried to rip off my elderly nanna. They soon ran off when me, my dad and my uncle rocked up after she rang us saying they weren't leaving until they were paid for work, work that they never did by the way. That trio who preyed on the elderly are scumbags.

On the flip side though a friend of mine's car broke down up around the North Yorkshire Moors and he had no phone signal. He was towed to Guisborough by a pair of travellers in their van and they refused to take any money for helping my friend out. He insisted and bought the pair of them a few cans of beer. So it's 50/50 in my experience.
 
The problem is people assume that if people act in a certain way that they must be travellers, so the stereotype is strengthened.
But if people from the travelling community are decent people as many of them are, people either ignore that or don't realise.
The way people talk about them is obviously prejudiced and probably the way rascist folk talked about black and Indian people in the 60s and 70s.
 
There was an illustrated cartoon in viz comic about 25 years ago titled " the theiving barstard Dids "
Basically wherever they pulled up the council would build shower blocks. They quoted pensioners to tarmac their drive in square meters but charged them cash per square foot.
Very funny but the epitomy of not politically correct.
The apology following a woke backlash was even more hilarious, from memory it went ;
" to all you theiving barsteward Dids out there , we are sorry, you are nice travelling people really ! "
 
The Triumph Motorcycle Factory had a visit by 'Travellers' prior to our bike clubs AGM last year. They illegally parked up in the visitors car park overnight and filled it and refused to move on. Our meeting was cancelled by phone call on the evening prior. The solution was to block the Travellers in by using large concrete crane ballance weights to prevent them leaving in their vans, trucks etc They were fu88ed, and they knew it. They were told they were staying there until they agreed to moved! Brillliant solution to a very difficult situation.
We re-arranged the AGM in the hotel we were staying with, so no damage done.
Slick action by both parties ;-)
 
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