Another nail in the coffin to m'bro town centre shopping

Real issue is of course that there is a £20million black hole in the councils budget thanks to the Tory mismanagement of the economy.

How would you propose how the council make £20m+ in cuts this year?
They is virtually nothing left to cut, oh yeah on the list as well is to turn off street lighting from midnight to 6am "in some areas" i bet i can take a guess which areas this will be!!!
 
60% of the proposed cuts directly affect children and disabled in our town, this is Preston's proposed budget, him and his Tory/Independent executive have chucked this mess at us, I for one will never support the current proposals, but I will say one thing, the least unpalatable proposals is charging £1 to park in Capt Cook car park instead of it being 3 hours free.
 
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You cant blame the Tories for this. Its a Labour Council that are bringing the charges in.
This is a council ran by Preston - a Multi millionaire Tory Independent, with the 3 only Tories on the council on his executive, along side a Tory government that are strangling local government budgets.
Middlesbrough Council isn't a Labour council at all.
 
60% of the proposed cuts directly affect children and disabled in our town, this is Preston's proposed budget, him and his Tory/Independent executive have chucked this mess at us, I for one will never support the current proposals, but I will say one least unpalatable proposals is charging £1 to park in Capt Cook car park instead of it being 3 hours free.
Yes your right the lodger, i think the free car parking is the only thing going for our town centre shopping at the moment, as soon as that goes then people will shop at free parking places like teesside park/dalton park etc and a lot of local buisiness will close as they can not afford the rents at the bigger shopping parks. Shame really.
 
Every single local authority in the Teesside area has been hammered by Tory Austerity since 2010. That is the reason the likes of MBC are struggling. They still have loads of responsibilities but funding to perform them has been massively cut for 12 years.
 
Paying a quid to park shouldn’t make a big difference. The town centre has many problems but whether parking is a quid or not isn’t one of them
 
Real issue is of course that there is a £20million black hole in the councils budget thanks to the Tory mismanagement of the economy.

How would you propose how the council make £20m+ in cuts this year?
I know, we fill the black hole by charging parking for visitors to Middlesbrough. The visitors drop off because of the parking and more shops close and the council gets less rates. That should do it.

Paying for parking maybe not be an issue for many, but when you can drive to Teesside Park and park for free, it becomes a no brainer.
 
Take next, m&s and primark away and what exactly are you left with ... A town centre no different to any other HOF, Debenhams, TJ Hughes, b&m all long gone with several others judging by the number of empty units. How many town centres have 3 shopping malls?

Stockton has realised this with the demolition of the castlegate
 
Just because that doesn’t factor in for me and you (as that was my initial thought), doesn’t mean other people won’t factor it in
It will impact some people but I doubt very many. If you already own a car, pay for fuel, and are going to town to buy things then I don't think parking charges are unexpected or bank breaking.

I believe studies have been done on this in the past which are usually quoted in these business cases that have shown that free parking for 2 hours, for example, actually hurts footfall because people will only stay for the duration of the free parking out of fear of parking fines, rather than spending longer term in the town centre or getting the bus to avoid it. This hurts restaurants and other places where 2 hours isn't enough to get shopping done as well as having a meal so people pick the more important one, and entertainment services. Some lances have gotten around that with longer free working but free parking is ultimately a cost and not a small one.

Businesses often shout the loudest about it, but probably don't even study how their customers get to them.

I know, we fill the black hole by charging parking for visitors to Middlesbrough. The visitors drop off because of the parking and more shops close and the council gets less rates. That should do it.

Paying for parking maybe not be an issue for many, but when you can drive to Teesside Park and park for free, it becomes a no brainer.
It only becomes a no brainer if the shops/things you need are at Teesside park for you to go there. In which case you would probably go to Teesside park anyway, seeing as Teesside park is already free and right by the shops you'd actually be going to. If people live really close to boro they would probably not avoid boro because it costs £1.50 to park there.

I really like Teesside park but the shops there are quite limited. It makes sense for larger stores, but even there to maintain occupancy they're having to split larger stores up into smaller units.



Take next, m&s and primark away and what exactly are you left with ... A town centre no different to any other HOF, Debenhams, TJ Hughes, b&m all long gone with several others judging by the number of empty units. How many town centres have 3 shopping malls?

Stockton has realised this with the demolition of the castlegate
Think reduction in retail space is key for Stockton and they're going the right route. Middlesbrough taking the approach to repurpose retail as well as to attract people to town and enhance night economy is also good.
 
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