Aitor is the manager of Maccabi Tel Aviv.

Yes he’s been there a while

Great gig
He was appointed in January this year after being sacked at Grenada in November after a poor run of performances.

The Israeli Prem League is pretty much a 3 horse race between Maccabi Tal Aviv, Maccabi Haifa and Hapoel Be’er Sheva. MTA finished 3rd this season.
 
Hopefully he does well but equally I how those who shout for his return every time we need a new manager are over their fixation now!
 
Karankas just another ex manager for us as far as im concerned. I dont know what gary monk is doing now, where gareth southgate is or what tony pulis is up to. Same applies to karanka. He was backed plenty so time to put that fallacy to bed. Its always been weird how some fans wanted him back in the face of all evidence that he peaked here and has shown ever since that we were right to get rid of him. should have done it earlier.
 
Karankas just another ex manager for us as far as im concerned. I dont know what gary monk is doing now, where gareth southgate is or what tony pulis is up to. Same applies to karanka. He was backed plenty so time to put that fallacy to bed. Its always been weird how some fans wanted him back in the face of all evidence that he peaked here and has shown ever since that we were right to get rid of him. should have done it earlier.
You don't know where Southgate is 😂
Interesting example
 
Karankas just another ex manager for us as far as im concerned. I dont know what gary monk is doing now, where gareth southgate is or what tony pulis is up to. Same applies to karanka. He was backed plenty so time to put that fallacy to bed. Its always been weird how some fans wanted him back in the face of all evidence that he peaked here and has shown ever since that we were right to get rid of him. should have done it earlier.
Actually quite the opposite. Our form and mentality got far worse when we sacked him. All chances of survival were gone. We only took 6 points from 11 games after we sacked him (0.55 per game). We had taken 22 from 27 before that (0.81 per game). How can you say we were right to get rid of him?

We were miles away from survival anyway but we definitely didn't help ourselves by sacking Karanka. Ultimately the players weren't good enough especially after we lost Ramirez. And I would have been more confident of a return the Premier league under Karanka than Agnew or Woodgate. The recruitment relegated us, and only the hierarchy know who was responsible for that. Karanka did hint that signings were made behind his back.
 
Actually quite the opposite. Our form and mentality got far worse when we sacked him. All chances of survival were gone. We only took 6 points from 11 games after we sacked him (0.55 per game). We had taken 22 from 27 before that (0.81 per game). How can you say we were right to get rid of him?

We were miles away from survival anyway but we definitely didn't help ourselves by sacking Karanka. Ultimately the players weren't good enough especially after we lost Ramirez. And I would have been more confident of a return the Premier league under Karanka than Agnew or Woodgate. The recruitment relegated us, and only the hierarchy know who was responsible for that. Karanka did hint that signings were made behind his back.
We were gone and its like saying weve been lost for fifty miles but its the fault of the guy who drive the last five. Karanka was lost, agnew was blind. That doesnt make karanka any less lost. We shouldve done it earlier but we shouldnt have done it with agnew - i dont think any of us expected that at the time

Go on then, tell us where we failed in recruitment but before you do, check youre not labouring under the assumption that all karanka had to do was point and theyd have come to boro. He was backed more than mowbray was for a start.
 
Actually quite the opposite. Our form and mentality got far worse when we sacked him. All chances of survival were gone. We only took 6 points from 11 games after we sacked him (0.55 per game). We had taken 22 from 27 before that (0.81 per game). How can you say we were right to get rid of him?

We were miles away from survival anyway but we definitely didn't help ourselves by sacking Karanka. Ultimately the players weren't good enough especially after we lost Ramirez. And I would have been more confident of a return the Premier league under Karanka than Agnew or Woodgate. The recruitment relegated us, and only the hierarchy know who was responsible for that. Karanka did hint that signings were made behind his back.
I was at the Stoke away game. We where awful and the crowd had turned on him. There was no way back after that.
 
We were gone and its like saying weve been lost for fifty miles but its the fault of the guy who drive the last five. Karanka was lost, agnew was blind. That doesnt make karanka any less lost. We shouldve done it earlier but we shouldnt have done it with agnew - i dont think any of us expected that at the time

Go on then, tell us where we failed in recruitment but before you do, check youre not labouring under the assumption that all karanka had to do was point and theyd have come to boro. He was backed more than mowbray was for a start.
Look at the list of arrivals in that season. If you need me to go through and break it down and explain why each player wasn't good enough then we may as well end the conversation now. The only ones that were Premier League quality were Negredo, Valdes and potentially De Roon. Traore was nowhere near ready at that point.

Ramirez obviously downed tools. The rest of those players are not Premier League quality. Most of them aren't even Championship quality. The defenders we signed were garbage.

Im not under any assumption that thats all Karanka had to do to get players. But the bottom line is those players were not good enough to survive even if you had had Guardiola at the helm. Whoever made those signings should got the boot. Maybe it was Karanka however he made strong suggestions that a lot of these signings were done without his blessing.

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I was at the Stoke away game. We where awful and the crowd had turned on him. There was no way back after that.
Well that's fickle fans for you isn't it. It was 6 months after he'd got us promoted, he deserved a bit more repect in my opinion. The players weren't good enough but at least Aitor had us organised and tough to beat for a while. As soon as he went, the floodgates opened.

Look at the players he had to try and change things. Gestede and Rhodes were his back up for Negredo. Viktor Fischer and a very raw Traore were his back up to a tired Downing and Stuani.

In the midfield he had two players who.had been brilliant but didn't have the pace for the Premier league in Leadbitter and Clayton with De Roon as an addition. His back ups there were forshaw, Guediora and De Sart. The latter was a youngster and has never even had a career since then.

The defensive signings were a shambles. Espinosa, Fabio and Baragan were all terrible. The only semi successful signing was Chambers.
 
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I honestly thought the players brought in were good enough individually, and the majority have gone on to have careers in the top leagues across Europe since. It just seemed like there was no real togetherness amongst it and maybe it was a bit too early for a lot of them.

We do seem to forget the likes of Leadbitter, Clayton and Friend should have been nowhere near a premier league squad by the way.
 
I honestly thought the players brought in were good enough individually, and the majority have gone on to have careers in the top leagues across Europe since. It just seemed like there was no real togetherness amongst it and maybe it was a bit too early for a lot of them.

We do seem to forget the likes of Leadbitter, Clayton and Friend should have been nowhere near a premier league squad by the way.
I think we'd have been better keeping the core of the squad that had succeeded in promotion and brought in maybe 6-7 quality players. Rather than overhauling the whole squad, some who weren't much better than we already had and others who were bought as development players.

Fischer, De Sart and Traore were all bought for the future. None of them were ready for the premier league at that time.

Guedioura, Gestede, Espinosa, Fabio and Baragan were no better or in some cases worse than the players they replaced.

The only real upgrades to the squad were Negredo, De Roon, Valdes and Chambers. We needed players who were ready to play at the level we needed them to immediately, the same as any promoted side does.
 
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