AARON RAMSEY FROM VILLA

Really you have to look at the realistic aims and the long term strategy. Loans are expensive and they are short term. They should only really be used where they have to be and that is to add a bit of extra quality to an already good squad to challenge for promotion (or to save a squad from relegation). If you get promoted then you have spare cash and no squad player to replace with better quality players for the next league up. If you don't get promoted then you have half a squad to replace every transfer window. We have 6 loan players which are going to have to be replaced in the summer. It means a full rebuild every season which doesn't seem optimal.

The other thing that loans do is stop your own players from developing. We had Hackney in our squad but we brought in Mowatt. If Mowatt hadn't flopped we wouldn't have seen any of Hackney. If Muniz hadn't flopped we'd have seen little of Forss etc. There seems to be an obligation to play loan players when it would be better to develop our own players. The other benefit of developing your own players is that even if you aren't successful in getting promoted you are taking cheap players and then selling them for a profit. It's a far more sustainable model than developing other teams players so they can sell them on to you for over-inflated values down the line.

Do players even care about the club when they are on loan there? I would guess not in the same way as the permanent players do. How many of them actually work out? This season alone we only had 2/4 that could nail down a starting place (wait to judge at the end of the season on the other 2). That's big money to be bench warming. Last season's were all poor.

We all want to see better quality players playing for us so I'm not dead against loans. I just think a more sustainable model is the developmental route.
A lot of good points here. I don't mind loans either but they have to be better quality than what you have already. Too often this isn't necessarily the case and clubs give chances to another team's player before one of their own.

Fair enough if you've given your own youngster an opportunity and they aren't up to it just yet, but too often they are passed over without being given an opportunity. That's where use of the loan market frustrates me and can impede youngsters progress.
 
I think I read somewhere that he trained with the players beforfe signing to test his fitness

He trained at Villa to prove he was fit enough to go on loan.

He's basically said that he's not fit yet in his interview that the club have just uploaded.
I expect it'll be a few weeks.
 
Good window, solid improvements, not too much distribution..

Massimo Luongo - Dan Barlaser
Duncan Watmore - Cameron Archer
Caolan Boyd-Munce - Aaron Ramsey

some nice partnerships in there too. Barlaser with Crooks and of course Archer with Ramsey.

Best partnerships since Ugo and Southgate?

Rotherham & Aston Villa

No wonder we were in for Jan Paul Van Hecke.. canny little Blackburn reunion.. I ‘m guessing he already know Matt Clarke from Brighton too.

Lenihan & Giles having already played together at Blackburn.


I like this approach, pretty much the opposite of the Victor Orta era!

any underated partnerships in the premier league? Bournemouth? Everton? Southampton?

Philip Billing & Marcus Tavernier?
Mason Holgate & Vitaliy Mykolenko?
James Ward Prowse & Mohamed Elyounoussi?

Sander Berge & Oliver McBurnie from Sheffield.. all of these would cost a fortune.

I think this tactic has flown very much under radar!
 
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