606,000 - Net inward UK Migration 2022

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An interesting figure for UK NET migration - 606,000 which the BBC are announcing is a record level for the UK.

The UK appears from the figures to be attractive destination for people seeking a new life and its not as bleak a place to live as portrayed by some. After reading predictions pre - 2020 I was expecting the UK to have a declining population and net zero migration, by the end of 2022. Maybe 2022 is mainly a blip - I honestly don't know.

I have even met quite a few EU Nationals who have even moved to the UK in the last 4 years they say the UK offers a lot of job opportunities and the UK generally offers a non-discriminatory job market compared with other countries.

I would still like to see more positive attitude in this country toward people who have disability when it comes to recruitment and retention of people born in the UK. 3m of which are out of work and at least 50% want to work.

A representative from Cleaning employers announced on BBC Radio 5 today, it was impossible to find new cleaners in the UK at present. I didn't realise it was that bad for employers. He said the UK Government didn't allow him to go abroad and get new workers for cleaning. I do know from personal experience whole groups of people seem to be written off i.e. you have suffered from anxiety and depression and has some time out, so you have no chance with me as an employer. The represetative statement seems to back that up.

The BBC are implying a lot of the new immigrants are students who later leave the UK, but wouldn't a lot be leaving after their studies to balance up those arriving?

Of course these number are just those with visas.

 
An interesting figure for UK NET migration - 606,000 which the BBC are announcing is a record level for the UK.

The UK appears from the figures to be attractive destination for people seeking a new life and its not as bleak a place to live as portrayed by some. After reading predictions pre - 2020 I was expecting the UK to have a declining population and net zero migration, by the end of 2022. Maybe 2022 is mainly a blip - I honestly don't know.

I have even met quite a few EU Nationals who have even moved to the UK in the last 4 years they say the UK offers a lot of job opportunities and the UK generally offers a non-discriminatory job market compared with other countries.

I would still like to see more positive attitude in this country toward people who have disability when it comes to recruitment and retention of people born in the UK. 3m of which are out of work and at least 50% want to work.

A representative from Cleaning employers announced on BBC Radio 5 today, it was impossible to find new cleaners in the UK at present. I didn't realise it was that bad for employers. He said the UK Government didn't allow him to go abroad and get new workers for cleaning. I do know from personal experience whole groups of people seem to be written off i.e. you have suffered from anxiety and depression and has some time out, so you have no chance with me as an employer. The represetative statement seems to back that up.

The BBC are implying a lot of the new immigrants are students who later leave the UK, but wouldn't a lot be leaving after their studies to balance up those arriving?

Of course these number are just those with visas.

its a pity they can't get jobs here to fill all the gaps left by cheap europeans as it is illegal to emply them
 
I would still like to see more positive attitude in this country toward people who have disability when it comes to recruitment and retention of people born in the UK. 3m of which are out of work and at least 50% want to work.

A representative from Cleaning employers announced on BBC Radio 5 today, it was impossible to find new cleaners in the UK at present.
None of that has anything to do with immigration though, does it.
 
Both parties are going to offer UKIP policies on steroids. Do you have access to news website or a TV? I suggest you take a look!

I'm guessing you're part of the #FBPE lot?
What the major parties are offering is irrelevant in recognising what an error leaving the EU was.

They can promise whatever policies they like, structural pressures on the UK economy will mean that immigration levels will remain where they are. We just seem to have chosen to sacrifice our EU membership in order to change the composition of where these migrants come from.

Wtf is #FBPE?
 
So leaving the EU to keep immigration low and protecting British workers is going great!

A country punching its own d*ck in, on repeat, while clowns cheer.
there are huge staff shortages in this country at the moment, every pub, cafe, b&b, shop and hotel where I live are advertising for staff and they cant get them, I volunteer on the NYMR and we cannot get catering and shop staff, we need immigration ! 400,000 of those immigrants were students and their families I believe.
 
Really? Like I said maybe try and switch your TV on or read the news or radio beyond that gritter O'Brien and take a look at Labour's policies for training and funding

These statistics will be in part due to Johnson

#FBPE are a group of stupid people, if you don't know just count your blessings

I don't listen to O'Brien, I have a job.

Labour's policies are what they are - but the reality is, as @locomansimon says, the country is reliant on immigration and will remain so under a Labour government. And if you believe what Starmer promises, I have a bridge to sell you..and I say this as Labour member!

Ultimately, as I've already said, structural pressures will mean we get closer to the EU. If immigration is going to remain at these levels, why not have immigrants from the EU and reap the benefits of EU membership for our economy and our citizens?

Labour pursuing a Europe policy that is as deluded Theresa May's will have exactly the same results.
 
I have even met quite a few EU Nationals who have even moved to the UK in the last 4 years they say the UK offers a lot of job opportunities and the UK generally offers a non-discriminatory job market compared with other countries.

‘In 2022, net EU migration was -51,000. This means more EU nationals left the UK than arrived.’


 
What the major parties are offering is irrelevant in recognising what an error leaving the EU was.

They can promise whatever policies they like, structural pressures on the UK economy will mean that immigration levels will remain where they are. We just seem to have chosen to sacrifice our EU membership in order to change the composition of where these migrants come from.

Wtf is #FBPE?
Ironically, Nigel Farage is recognising how disastrous it has been.....
 
I realised in 2018 where Brexit was heading and so was against a second referendum

Especially as Labour at the time and the #FBPE ignored a soft brexit and the only possible outcome was then Johnsons hard brexit which Starmer backed and now is clear there's no case for Labour to rejoin

You're only 5 years behind the times 👍

Have you read anything I've written?

I'm literally saying that structural pressures will mean that rejoining the single market is an inevitability and that the current Labour policy will, like all other Brexit policies, crumble when it meets with reality.

Is that what you thought in 2018?
 
You want me ro have a conversation with you abput what you think will happen in the future?

Maybe listen to what I said which is based on reality that Labour have ruled it out

Honestly it's 2023 it's just weird now

You're the one who started banging on about policies for the GE next year, so you brought the future into it.

I made a flippant comment about how immigration numbers haven't reduced, despite Brexit and 'control'. You then made it about how both major parties have ridiculous and unworkable immigration policies. And I pointed out how irrelevant that is to the structural reality of the UK's relationship with Europe..

And it being 2023 - the UK will remain the subject to decisions made by the EU for as long as we remain in its regulatory orbit, regardless of the year. Hence me talking about structural pressures. That you figured out the 2018 politics of it doesn't make your ignorance of the macroeconomics of it any less glaring.
 
My god you're clueless

Back on topic and back to 2023 and as I was saying I can imagine this will be the next general election battleground sadly

And another assertion while refusing to actually engage with anything I've said. Going to brag about how you got the 1974 election result right?

If you're what qualifies as clued up, then call me Alicia Silverstone.
 
None of that has anything to do with immigration though, does it.
Some employers would rather employ a person from overseas that say modify a workplace for someone with a disability or say risk (in the mind of the employer) employing someone who has suffered from depression in the past. 10% of the UK population have a disability, but most employers workforces are less than 2% disabled. In my opinion they should give more people in the UK a chance to work than import labour so readily. I also have a suspicion that there is age discrimination too i.e. some employer want to employ a 18 year old than employ a 55 year old plus resident in the UK. The 18 year can be paid below the Living Wage and tend not to answer back if bullied etc. The 18 year is also probably physically fitter.
 
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Pay them a decent living wage and it won't be impossible.
Arsed - this was going through my head when he was talking. Cleaners were awfully paid on the past and still lowly paid when you consider some have to work unsocial hours and need to use own transport to get to work (e.g own a car).
 
‘In 2022, net EU migration was -51,000. This means more EU nationals left the UK than arrived.’


I agree more EU Nationals are leaving the UK then coming, but a decent number of EU Nationals still want to come. I have a major chicken factory near me which processes over 900,000 chickens a day. The vast majority of the production workers come from poorer areas of Poland, Lithuania, Lativa, Ukraine, Romania. Some of them were at school in June 2016.
 
advertising for cleaners here at £12 ph, still cant get them.
Interesting - I would guess that is at Grosmont and Pickering.

I used to live near Grosmont in the 1970s and there was never a problem employing staff that I was aware of and a lot of the pay was poor. I was a teenager and lots of teenagers worked in the cafes and the shops and lived with their parents, close by. My guess is that some local working class folk have moved away and professional middle class families have moved in or retired to the area or local properties are now holiday lets run by families who used to be cleaners etc. Its also become a more expensive area to live in that in the 1970s, in relative terms. A £10k 2 bed cottage is now £300k, but wages are not 30 times higher. I got £1.10/hour working in a bar in 1980, cleaners would have been similar.
 
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