6 Months suspended sentence

A lot of the school mini buses have a top speed restrictor on them that gives you an extra 5mph. With modern technology it wouldn’t be hard to implement this in built up areas.

Not many tractors going up Normanby Rd but plenty of speeding drivers.
 
I don't think anyone would argue the punishment was incredibly lenient particularly if you compare it with say drink driving where no one was hurt and the alcohol limit was just exceeded. The man got away incredibly lightly. I would hope he takes the guilt to the grave with him.
The maximum of five years would have probably been right
 
Around forty years since I was a cyclist but have taken to the roads again recently on an e-scooter and been rather alarmed at the amount of vitriol I've received within a short space of time. In fact, on one occasion, the vitriol was directed extremely loudly as an aggrieved motorist passed very close by, the surprise nearly causing me to fall off my chariot. Of course, if I'd have been hurt or killed, it would have been my 'own fault' and wall-to-wall 'these fȕckin scooters shouldn't be on the road' which, while currently true legally, doesn't give motorists the right to try and go about deliberately hurting people. Interestingly, I've encountered far more abuse in rural environments than I have in town. Something bad's happened over the past four decades to have changed motorists' perceptions of cyclists and now scooterists - either that or my riding is spectacularly bad - to the extent I doubt we'll be able to even share the roads for very much longer even if we're prepared to pay for the privilege. It's sad and, short of creating new dedicated cycle/scooter/pedestrian lanes which I doubt very much is going to happen under this government, I don't know what the answer is :(
 
Norman_Conquest said:
A lot of the school mini buses have a top speed restrictor on them that gives you an extra 5mph. With modern technology it wouldn’t be hard to implement this in built up areas.

Not many tractors going up Normanby Rd but plenty of speeding drivers.
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I've been overtaken by a bicycle on Ormesby bank. I was keeping to the speed limit.

All passenger minibuses have had a 62mph speed restrictor since about 2011. Not very well known but they also are not allowed to go above 50mph on 60mph roads. They also aren't allowed in the outside lanes of motorways.
 
Muttley said:
As a hypothetical example you pull out to overtake a tractor and trailer which is doing 25mph on a 30mph urban road, it is safer to exceed the speed limit by say 5mph to complete the overtake manoeuvre than to attempt to pass with a mere 5mph margin which leaves you on the wrong side of the road longer.
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Safer for who?
The Transport Research Laboratory in a report for the Department of Transport noted "The change from mainly survivable injuries in pedestrians hit by vehicles to mainly fatal injuries takes place at speeds between 30 and 40 mph". The research lead to the ROSPA campaign to get people to slow down in urban areas:
Hit by a car at 40 mph, nine out of ten pedestrians will be killed.
Hit by a car at 30 mph, about half of pedestrians will be killed.
Hit by a car at 20 mph, nine out of ten pedestrians will survive.

So yes, if the choice is to sit behind a tractor for say 3 miles at 25mph on an urban road or for you to cross onto the wrong side of the road accelerate up to 35mph putting oncoming drivers & pedestrians at greater risk of death for you to save 1 minute, then yes I think you should sit behind the tractor.
 
Last week I was driving to Northallerton on the road from the A19, within the speed limit, about 55mph, coming out of a bend there was a rise with a double white line on the summit, just before I got to the top there was a tractor with a line of traffic and some utter nutcase had decided that he could overtake the lot, top of a hill, bends in the road and a double white line. On my side of the road How I managed to miss him I have no idea, just tried to dive out of his way onto the grass at the side of the road. If I'd had a slight distraction and maybe not so good thinking and reacting time we'd probably have hit head on at a combined speed of 120mph. It was over that quickly I didn't even get what make of car it was. I really, really would have liked to have a quiet word with him before he killed somebody, because he damn well nearly killed Mrs Gnome and me.
 
Muttley said:
Given that very few modern cars are not capable of exceeding the national speed limit that is nonsense. This guy was doing 60 in a 40 the fact he was in a Porsche is neither here nor there he could just as easily have reached that speed in any car you care to name.
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maybe , but probably could not have gone from 40 to 60 as quickly as he could in Porsche. Its called acceleration. F = ma
Anyway nice to see you defend the indefensible - yet again.
 
Hundred rooms are you on drugs or something, Whilst I disagree with Mutley on just about everything, he is defending nothing in that post, just pointing out the porsche was not the issue.
 
Laughing said:
Hundred rooms are you on drugs or something, Whilst I disagree with Mutley on just about everything, he is defending nothing in that post, just pointing out the porsche was not the issue.
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only high on life and a few too many squares of chocolate
 
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