3-4-3 system

At the moment the squad is so unbalanced that we'd struggle no matter what formation we played. We've recruited towards 4-2-3-1 for the last 2 years but we still dont really have the right balance in the squad for that formation. The recruitment has been gash over the last 3 windows.

Doesnt matter whether we are 3 at the back or 4 at the back, we are short a right and a left full back or wing back.

2 X CMs are required whether we play 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-2-1. So no real difference there. And we are probably one short.

I don't think we really have any good naturally wide players in the squad. We have loaded the squad with inverted wingers.

Forss, Hamilton, Gilbert and Silvera aren't good enough to be starting.

McGree, Azaz and Whittaker are probably our 3 best players at playing those attacking roles behind the striker And they will be more suited to playing in Edwards system than Carricks in my opinion.

Both systems play with 1 x no9. We only have Conway in the squad who's a proper no9 at the moment.

The one place we have any reasonable depth is CB so playing with 3 CBs makes sense.

I think we are more suited the 3-4-2-1 than 4-2-3-1 but we aren't properly geared up for either. The lack of wing backs is the obvious major concern.
 
3-1-2-1-2-1

—————-Brynn—————-
——-Jones—Fry—Borges——
—————-Kante—————-
——-—Morris—McCabe——-
——————Azaz—————-
——-Whittaker—Burgzorg——
—————-Conway————-
Should we pushed the sponsor boards in 10 yards on either side?
 
Azaz played left of a midfield 3 for Plymouth and that’s where we signed McGree to play too.

I think 433 would suit us with Morris sitting, and Hackney & Azaz / McGree pushing on as 8s.

Would suit Whittaker right in a front 3 as well.
 
Azaz played left of a midfield 3 for Plymouth and that’s where we signed McGree to play too.

I think 433 would suit us with Morris sitting, and Hackney & Azaz / McGree pushing on as 8s.

Would suit Whittaker right in a front 3 as well.
But then who do you play on the left of the front 3?
Burgzorg??

If you play 4-3-3 you need at least one of your front 3 to play really wide. You don't really get any width from anywhere else unless you commit your full backs right up the pitch and it ends up a bit too narrow. Like Newy's mental formation.

When you play 3-4-2-1, the front 3 can play a bit narrower because the wing backs should provide the width. Thats why I think it suits McGree, Azaz, Whittaker more.

I thought 4-3-3 may have been a decent option last year when we had Doak. Played Doak as the right forward and you can then have a narrower player playing on the left. Similar to how Arsenal play where Saka will get really wide on the right touchline and they will have a narrower player playing on the left of the 3 like Martinelli. We just dont have that really wide player in the squad either side now.
 
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I don’t see Rob Edwards as a “my system or the highway” manager. He’s not Amorim or Wilder who refuses to consider playing a different way.

Suspect he’s thinking 3 at the back because he’s seen something in the squad which would suit it. Of course we’re lacking in some areas, we are regardless of formation, but maybe he thinks it’ll get the best out of our most talented players.
 
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I don’t see Rob Edwards as a “my system or the highway” manager. He’s not Amorim or Wilder who refuses to consider playing a different way.

Suspect he’s thinking 3 at the back because he’s seen something in the squad which would suit it. Of course we’re lacking in some areas, we are regardless of formation, but maybe he thinks it’ll get the best out of our most talented players.
yet that's exactly what Luton fans criticised him for in the end. being wedded to 3 at the back and stubbornly refusing to change.

the fact he has immediately gone to it here suggests he heavily favours it at least.
 
yet that's exactly what Luton fans criticised him for in the end. being wedded to 3 at the back and stubbornly refusing to change.

the fact he has immediately gone to it here suggests he heavily favours it at least.
Would you not agree it suits us at the moment?
 
I'm not saying Ayling is the answer and he's obviously older now, but when we signed him on loan, didn't he set up about eight goals in half a season?

Maybe he might surprise a few people?

Yep, he was playing for his final contract. He was awful last season.
 
I would assume that we are going to be bringing in a couple of wingbacks.
I would also assume that the reason we have not done so is because we are waiting for the hackney money.

If we have 25 million to spend on players rather than 5 or 6 million then the players we are signing would be of different caliber.
It would be silly to spend a million each on a pair of mediocre players when in a week's time we could spend 5 million on good ones.

so it would be daft playing 433 all pre season then switching to 3 at the back when we finally get the players in.
£25m sounds like a lot.. but if soon starts disappearing..

Dijksteel £2m
Clarke £2m
Howson £5m

£9m worth of players to replace with no income generated.

Brittain £3.5m Jones £2m Kante £2.5m
£8m cost of players to replace.

So out of £25m.. we’re down to £17m

Players going into their final year.. new deal, sell or just let their contract run out?

Let’s just see.. roughly ball park net figures for their replacements.. should we need them.

Fry £2.5m
Forss £3m
Barlaser £1.5
Lenihan £2.5m
Glover £1m
Silvera £500k
Ayling £2.5m
Finch £500k

£14m.. phew just scraped in with these made up numbers! LOADSAMONEY!! Got £3m left over!

Oh.. hang on.. we’ve got some fringe players that might have to go out on loan.. they’ll need covering for..

Engel £1.3m
Gilbert £1m
Hamilton £2m

£5.3m.. we’ll smash some cheeky loans out.. £3m BOSH JOB DONE!

apart from Injured players that we might have to cover for..

£2m Dieng
£1m Bangura
£3.5m McGree
£6.5m of players to cover for with no money left? and we’ve not replaced Hackney or Latte Lath.. two £5m replacements should cover that.. RVDB.. sold.. and now to replace RVDB.. Azaz.. £15m? We’ll get a nice and tidy £7m player in and smarten up the joint.. sort that extra £6.5m worth of players out. £1.5m left over!

Maybe we could take care of the £5.3m worth of fringe players.. one less loan to bring in.. one for the future!

Phew.. job done.. and we’ve barely managed to stand still.
 
I’d totally do it for the first few home games!
You cant just do it for the first few Newy. I thought you'd be all over that rule.
You've got to declare the pitch dimensions for the season.
If we go long and narrow now, then we are stuck with it for the season.
What Rory Delap doing these days?
 
You cant just do it for the first few Newy. I thought you'd be all over that rule.
You've got to declare the pitch dimensions for the season.
If we go long and narrow now, then we are stuck with it for the season.
What Rory Delap doing these days?
I thought you could phuck around with as much as you wanted as long as it stayed in the accepted limits.
 
I thought you could phuck around with as much as you wanted as long as it stayed in the accepted limits.
Nope. I think you used be able to.
Now you declare your pitch dimensions at the beginning of the season and you've got to stick by it unless theres exceptional circumstances. (Damaged pitch or stadium or something).
Obviously theres a range and the declared dimension can be anywhere within the range
 
Nope. I think you used be able to.
Now you declare your pitch dimensions at the beginning of the season and you've got to stick by it unless theres exceptional circumstances. (Damaged pitch or stadium or something).
Obviously theres a range and the declared dimension can be anywhere within the range
I don’t know why but I assumed all clubs would have the biggest possible.. then mark it out to suit depending on their opponents.

Maybe I’ve seen some team narrow or widen their pitch at the start of the season and then I just keep thinking of that clip of Alex fegusson on the phone to the groundsman at old Trafford.. FLOOD IT!
 
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