Ingleby_Flash
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The border was created between the north and south of Ireland. How many lives did that cost.
I'm sure you've seen it but for anyone who hasn't I'd recommend watching 'The Wind That Shakes The Barley'. Similarly the novel, 'A Star Called Henry' by Roddy Doyle.Totally shocking article that.
As a kid we looked out for an old guy who was shipped to Dublin in 1916, he was in the King’s Hussars, he had a few tales to tell. Started my fascination with Irish politics that runs still 50 years later. We have a lot to answer for.
It was an episode of Who Do You Think You AreI saw an interview on TV a few years ago with Brendan O'Carrol. (He plays Mrs Brown in Mrs Browns Boys). He was researching his family history and found out that his grandfather was shot and killed by a British Agent in a hotel room in Dublin. It seems that this agent was brought from England to specifically kill Black and Tan members. He was quite well known as was his reputation and was easily identified because he only had one leg. (He was actually named but I forget what he was called). Brendan O Carrol traced this agent back to England and found out that he became a judge when he had finished working for British Intelligence.
The Black and Tans knew of this agent and tried on a number of occasions to capture or kill him. He always seemed to get away in t he nick of time. It turns out there was a British agent in the ranks of the Black and Tans who forewarned the Brits of any attempt on his life.
If you ever get to see the interview it is very compelling and shows the human side of a dirty war from a viewpoint of many years later..
You are absolutely right Norfolk- apologies. It should have been the IRA. I think I had a "senior" moment- sorry.Why would the Brits want to kill Black and Tans.
Some mistake surely?
Yes his familly Were acused of being members of the IRA and from the documentary it appears they were. However their treatment appeared very unjust to say the least.You are absolutely right Norfolk- apologies. It should have been the IRA. I think I had a "senior" moment- sorry.
Loads mate, Ed Moloney wrote some decent stuff. But there are many, you have to read people from all perspectives and make your own view. Mine isn’t the one the BBC wanted me to have when I was growing up.what historical stuff - have you read ?