“No to ghost games”

How are teams such as Marske Utd or Stockton Town supposed to afford streaming?

I see no reason why their small handful of fans can’t social distance. People won’t be moaning about a “lack of atmosphere” in a massive stadium like they are about Germany.
 
Maybe I am on my own here but for me football just doesn’t matter much any more.

I was reading some article yesterday about some PL player I’ve never heard of who is paid £148,000 a week. Distinctly average PL players drive around in Rollers, Ferraris and Bentleys. The Gazette reported today that the average pay for the top paid player at each Championship club is £29,000 a week, £1.5millon a year.

And then I think of the front line workers in the NHS, police and other emergency services in the U.K. risking their lives and without proper PPE, for their relatively low pay. We’ve got it all wrong and I am really beginning to feel real contempt for the professional football business.

Footballers have always been looked upon as heroes. Fair enough. But for me it’s the front line staff in the emergency services, especially those dealing with Covid, who are the real heroes.

Yes, football is a hugely cherished national pastime. But in the end it’s people that matter; 33,000+ dead now, including NHS staff just doing their jobs helping us, for which they have paid with their lives just because the government didn’t get proper PPE for them.

A friend of ours died from Covid19 a few weeks ago, maybe that’s affecting my feelings too; granted she was elderly but she was fit and healthy. I feel very sad and very angry.
 
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Maybe I am on my own here but for me football just doesn’t matter much any more.

I was reading some article yesterday about some PL player I’ve never heard of who is paid £148,000 a week. Distinctly average PL players drive around in Rollers, Ferraris and Bentleys. The Gazette reported today that the average pay for the top paid player at each Championship club is £29,000 a week, £1.5millon a year.

And then I think of the front line workers in the NHS, police and other emergency services in the U.K. risking their lives and without proper PPE, for their relatively low pay. We’ve got it all wrong and I am really beginning to feel real contempt for the professional football business.

Footballers have always been looked upon as heroes. Fair enough. But for me it’s the front line staff in the emergency services, especially those dealing with Covid, who are the real heroes.

Yes, football is a hugely cherished national pastime. But in the end it’s people that matter; 33,000+ dead now, including NHS staff just doing their jobs helping us, for which they have paid with their lives just because the government didn’t get proper PPE for them.

A friend of ours died from Covid19 a few weeks ago, maybe that’s affecting my feelings too; granted she was elderly but she was fit and healthy. I feel very sad and very angry.

Football has never mattered. But if you spent your entire existence only pondering the things that mattered, you’d never be able to relax.
 
Just read a comment on the BBC website about PL restarting. The original comment they were replying to was "Test the NHS before PL footballers". The reply stating that the PL had paid £4M to a Hong Kong company for the testing left me thinking couldn't they have done this 2 months ago to pay for testing in care homes in their areas.
 
They won’t have to pay appearance bonuses, staff wages or retain players whose contracts have expired.

They will also have medical expenses if it is played out.

So by that rationale it’s easier if professional football collapses entirely, with no games at all until a vaccine is found and distributed widely. Then at least the tiny semi-pro clubs aren’t getting left behind at least.
 
So by that rationale it’s easier if professional football collapses entirely, with no games at all until a vaccine is found and distributed widely. Then at least the tiny semi-pro clubs aren’t getting left behind at least.
I never said that, but you are better off asking this woman that question, she voted to end the season in which her club had everything to play for. She knew it was for the best of all concerned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52680382
 
I never said that, but you are better off asking this woman that question, she voted to end the season in which her club had everything to play for. She knew it was for the best of all concerned.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52680382

I’m not really doubting that that might be best for most clubs this season.

But there seems to be a sentiment on this thread that football matches without fans are pointless. Whether it’s this season, next or whatever.

If we go down the road of “no football at all” until vaccination though, there will be enormous consequences at the very top all the way down to the very bottom of the professional pyramid, obviously. The idea that we can watch the big nasty, well-supported clubs all suffer while the small semi-pro clubs all somehow thrive makes no economical sense.
 
I’m not really doubting that that might be best for most clubs this season.

But there seems to be a sentiment on this thread that football matches without fans are pointless. Whether it’s this season, next or whatever.

If we go down the road of “no football at all” until vaccination though, there will be enormous consequences at the very top all the way down to the very bottom of the professional pyramid, obviously. The idea that we can watch the big nasty, well-supported clubs all suffer while the small semi-pro clubs all somehow thrive makes no economical sense.
I am not bothered if they play in empty stadiums or full houses. My concern is football taking vital resources that could be allocated elsewhere. I have just read on the 'Kawasaki post' that you are concerned about your children returning to school and rightly so, do you think the resources that football are using would be better served keeping your children and their classmates safe.
 
I am not bothered if they play in empty stadiums or full houses. My concern is football taking vital resources that could be allocated elsewhere. I have just read on the 'Kawasaki post' that you are concerned about your children returning to school and rightly so, do you think the resources that football are using would be better served keeping your children and their classmates safe.

I don’t think it’s that simple. If you’re talking about governmental resources, then yes, though I think what’s more likely is that schools won’t go back in June until we know more about it.

But I’m not advocating that football starts “soon”, I’m just advocating that when it does start, it’s behind closed doors when it does. Many seem to be suggesting that football should be completely shelved until the virus is totally eradicated.
 
Why can't we have stadiums with people in? Do people not see we are been played for fools? It's ok for footballers to mingle freely but not the public?
Social distancing is easily done when the whole world was staying at home. In the real world it's simply not possible.
 
I don’t think it’s that simple. If you’re talking about governmental resources, then yes, though I think what’s more likely is that schools won’t go back in June until we know more about it.

But I’m not advocating that football starts “soon”, I’m just advocating that when it does start, it’s behind closed doors when it does. Many seem to be suggesting that football should be completely shelved until the virus is totally eradicated.
I wouldn't bet on schools not restarting on June 1st in some capacity, we are already pulling staff in to look after students due to the number attending school going up.

On another note, what do the top clubs charge to stream a game?

I know I pay £3 to listen on the radio when I'm in France at the start of the season. I 'm not sure if the streaming would equal the price of a match ticket.

There is more chance of teams going bust if games go ahead in empty stadiums.
 
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I wouldn't bet on schools not restarting on June 1st in some capacity, we are already pulling staff in to look after students due to the number attending school going up.

On another note, what do the top clubs charge to stream a game?

I know I pay £3 to listen on the radio when I'm in France at the start of the season. I 'm not sure if the streaming would equal the price of a match ticket.

There is more chance of teams going bust if games go ahead in empty stadiums.

It’s about £10, but that wouldn’t have to stay the same necessarily.
 
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