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I don't think he did, he was athletic for sure but that's about it. Defensively poor so couldn't be trusted at right back and nowhere near good enough going forward to be played at right wing, that's probably why he did well at Forest playing wing back. That's the only role he can be useful in...

I’d say more teams played 433 than 4231 in the 00s due to Mourinho and the Makelele role. 4231 came along a bit later, again I think Mourinho was the inspiration.

State run, billion pound squad Manchester City defy all the odds to win 4th title in a row. What a thrilling competitive sport we have.

Engel had one of his better games today against a very good opponent, he did his job fairly well defensively and I don't really recall him giving away silly passes too often either like he usually does. I don't remember Maddo being particularly harsh on him today.

Ayling without a doubt, he was the calm head in a match of chaos.

Another decent performance, frustrating at times but a fun game of football to watch. The biggest thing for me over the course of this run is that we have to be better at playing the ball through the pitch, we never really look like we're in control of games like we did last season, everything...

How on earth is that a free kick?

2 phenomenal saves from their keeper!

We're a threat on the break, Latte Lath, Azaz and Jones have looked dangerous, Silvera not so much. It's just defensively and getting up the pitch looks such a struggle for us, once we get the ball to the front 4 I fancy us to cause anyone problems but it's painful up to that point.

The defender just dived and saved that?

We have to shut that left side down, Silvera and Greenwood have offered absolutely nothing lately so you may as well make it defensively competent. Maybe put Engel in front of Thomas or even O'Brien out there but then you'd have to put Barlaser in the middle.

Smith has just spent an entire season injured and he was already struggling for form at the end of last season and the start of this. I think it's fair to be concerned about those 2 being the only right backs at the club.

I wouldn’t be against us signing him on a 1 year deal although have the same issue as others have mentioned that we would be left with 2 aging right backs. If we had a younger right back plus Ayling or Smith I’d be much happier with that. Surprised that people are surprised by his quality on...

Classy player, only going to get better under Carrick.

How many of those assists are from set pieces though? We aren’t allowed to score from set pieces so he won’t get those here.

How's Howson floating through the midfield like that at 35 hahaha.

We've never deserved to be in this game but what a counter attack, 20 minutes to keep the season alive and Hull have to really come out at us.

It's pretty funny if people genuinely thought Howson was playing as the central defender in a back 3.

Yeah I thought so, not sure why I keep reading people complaining about dumping the wing backs like it only happened tonight.

Didn't we change the system 3 games ago? I haven't recognised us as playing wing backs since Blackburn.